This week's livestream sees Ralf returning to his Mike Schley-style regional overland map to add terrain, labels and all kinds of other details.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB-YAWoqiPo

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@Don Anderson Jr. There's a hole in the middle of the larger ones, so each of them will look different depending on where you put them. You can add a bump to any of them by putting a bevel or chameleon hill in the centre.

@Royal Scribe Yes, I think cliffs will be first tomorrow morning, unless anyone else comes up with a request I just didn't think about.

Thanks for the answers so far everyone! Very useful.

Speed depends a lot on how many nodes you have in the object you are tracing (and also in the map as a whole). Maybe use SIMPLIFY first?

It would be nice to have better tracing tools, but for now we have what we have.

Thank you :)

CC4 Overland is only a style, not the app itself. The reason it's called CC4 Overland is because it's intended for release with the upgrade to CC4, just like the mapping style called CC3 Standard Overland was released when CC2 was upgraded to CC3.

Because it's a style rather than the app itself, I imagine that it could be used as easily on CC3+, though I'm not sure if it will be available separately if you don't have CC4 when it comes out. That kind of decision lies in the future.

That's really interesting about the hills and the mountains. Thank you :)

Lovely idea with the background map.

I think the first sentence has been duplicated.

Dotted lines don't always behave the way you want. Most often, if you have longer bits in the line you can try fractionally adjusting the nodes using the move node tool. It's a fiddle, but a handy tip is to use as few nodes as you can for the line you want.

City Cliffs is not a stand alone style, but a symbol pack that can be used in any regular city style.

Create a new imperial scale city map in a style of your choice and click the first icon on the catalog toolbar, Bitmap A Style Catalogs|CD3CATICON1|and select the CA63 Cliffs setting. This will load the new Cliffs catalog into the catalog window.

Choose the first symbol listed in the catalog window (called CA165 Cliff 1|10|1) and click where you want to start the cliff...

It works just like any other connecting symbol after that - providing you have picked an imperial map template. One of the things that we didn't realise until after the cliffs were released is that they simply don't work in metric templates.

That is indeed a hollow in there.

Thanks :)

I always make varicolour symbols.

Don't forget this is just a first draft. There may be many different versions.

The disadvantage of having a separate sheet for the edge striping is that if you decide to modify the land shape you will also have to do exactly the same modification to the new EDGE STRIPE sheet polygons.