disappearing symbols
HelenAA
🖼️ 5 images Surveyor
This has me baffled. I put symbols on my map, save the map using SAVE command, move the focus of the map up / down / zoom in / zoom out and the symbols have vanished. I have repeated the process by moving the focus (the bit of the map that I want to work on next) with the scroll bars as well and the same thing happens. I don't know what is going on.
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I can't open your map right now, but check your sheet order. The behavior you describe is exactly what happens when the symbols go to a sheet that is hidden by something else, for example a landmass.
For performance reasons, when you place symbols, they will always appear on top of everything else, but once you change the view in any way, the view is recalculated, and everything goes into the correct position based on sheet order. The fact that the symbols disappear means that they are on a sheet behind something.
Your land is on your LAKES sheet instead of being on the LAND sheet, and is therefore on top of your symbols as Remy described.
Huh?? I hadn't gone out to put land anywhere but the Land sheet! I rely on the software to do that for me. Clearly I must take a little more attention. Thanks guys
I'm resurrecting this thread since I'm having a similar issues. Specifically with the 2015 Annual Scifi Downports for Cosmographer. I've played around with the sheets, tried a couple of different orders, set the background to the lowest point, but no matter what I do, when I put down symbols on the map and scroll, the symbols disappear. They also don't render when I save the file to image. I just did a complete re-install of the whole CC3+ with all the stuff I have, and this is still/again a problem. Here's the default sheet order I get.
you definitely need LAND, @kalt_null . it goes underneath BACKGROUND as far as the actual list goes but its actually 0n t0p of BACKGROUND..
Hope that helps.
So I just add that layer?
Looking at the Layer selection, the symbols are on the RELIEF/CONTOURS layer, and the BACKGROUND layer is simply above it. If I hide the BACKGROUND layer, I can see the symbols. But I don't know how to move BACKGROUND under that... I could've sworn this format worked without having to fiddle with these things a year ago...
You may be getting sheets and Layers mixed up.
That's right, Go into the sheet list and Add a sheet and move it to below BACKGROUND. I'm not sure if it will solve your problem but it will catch some of your symbols and polys.
If I create a LAND sheet and move it below BACKGROUND, the same still happens.
Also if I hide the BACKGROUND sheet, nothing happens. When I hide the BACKGROUND layer the background disappears and I can see the symbols...
I don't know if the Layer selection can give any of y'all any insights into what the hell's going wrong here...
That is the LAYER list. You need to work on the SHEET list.
And it is also possible that some of the symbols are on the merge layer - do a list command on them.
@kalt_null - Can you share your [filename].FCW file with us?
There's just a few buildings on there, since everything disappears when I zoom or redraw... But that should be enough to troubleshoot.
If this looks about right, then the things that were wrong were as follows:
The polygon on the SCREEN sheet had been turned to the same texture as the background instead of white. The screen is meant to be white. It hides all the stuff that sticks outside the edge of the map, like roads, rivers and trees etc. I turned it back to white and put it on a layer called SCREEN, which I then froze so it doesn't get selected again.
The MAP BORDER sheet had a filled polygon on it in the same texture as the background, so it covered everything no matter what you did. I've converted it to a hollow rectangle in black.
Separately to that I've also frozen the MAP BORDER layer, which has 4 green lines (actually drawn on the BACKGROUND sheet) within it, marking the extent of the drawing for export.
I think that is all the changes I made.
EDIT: It might help if I actually attached the map I modified! Sorry.
Interesting. Thank you so much for looking into this. I wonder how this happened, since that was basically the state I found the whole thing in when creating the project. Is that basically just some random bug...? I just had reinstalled all of CC3+ et. al., the only deviation from the norm was selecting a different color for the background ("glacial" instead of "desert" basically).
Yes, the template does seem to be a bit messed up if you change the background preference during creation. I'll report it as a bug.
In the meantime, if you want a new map that's ok, start one without changing the background, then hide all the sheets except the background in the new map, and use the Change Properties tool to change the background fill to the one you want.
Yes, there was a problem in that template. Here are fixed versions, which you can copy into the foolde /Templates/Cosmographer/Wizard/ (overwrite the existing versions).
Thanks very much, Ralf :D
And my apologies to HelenAA for my outrageous thread hijack! I got consumed by the problem and forgot who the owner was.
don't apologise Sue. I was glad to have been able to help - even in a very minor way.