Map Size - ReSize

is it possible to resize the over all extent of the map in CC3+ ?
or maybe Copy the section of the map I want to move to a new map with the proper sizing ?
sounds silly I know but it seems to make a real difference on printing

I really like the maps I have made but didn't start them all the same size on the extents. i'm wanting to print them for my players in a note book and the look seems to be more important to me than I first realized.

thanx
Q
Don Anderson Jr.

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  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    You can resize the map canvas using File -> Resize drawing area.

    Another alternative is to create a new map, and then use Draw -> Insert file to insert your old map into the new one. Or you could use the clipboard to just copy all the entities from one map to another
  • edited April 2020
    Thank you for such a quick response. I will try one of the alternative suggestions as soon as possible.
    the Resize Drawing area option was not found under File. new, open, save, save as, auto save, batch conversion, CC2 to CC3 conversion,print, print wizard, and drawing properties. in the drawing properties I have drawtools style - custom palette - setting [map notes - drawing units - project drawing] - default symbol size - text sheet and chamfer lines. I look through Edit, View and the rest and did not find it … will try to do new drawing and use the Draw >Insert file tomorrow.

    thanx for your time,
    Q
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    Do you have the latest CC3+ update (Update 25, CC3+ 3.94 as of this writing)?
    Resize Drawing Area should appear right below drawing properties in the list. It was added in an update, but that's a year or two back now.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    Hmmm.. Seems like your menu file haven't been updated for some reason.

    Try running the CC3menuconfig.exe file found inside your CC3 plus data directory. (Close CC3+ first). It doesn't have any visible output, so it won't appear to actually do anything, but it does it's job silently.


    You can also access the command by typing SCALEMAPEXT on the CC3+ command line
  • Thank you
    The command worked great !
    Still not able to get it in the file. Ran CC3menuconfig as admin and no chance to file menu.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    If you want to keep trying to fix the menu, you can try deleting the file @System\online.cfg and then run the cc3menuconfig.exe again. This config file is the one that is used when updating the menu, and should be automatically downloaded fromt he ProFantasy servers when you installed the update. However, if it is outdated in some way, deleting it will cause the utility to fall back to the menu.cfg which was included in the update installer itself.
  • Deleted online.cfg and ran the CC3menuconfig as admin.
    Still no luck.
  • RalfRalf Administrator, ProFantasy 🖼️ 18 images Mapmaker
    Can you send in a support request from your registration account? I'll need to dig deeper into what is going wrong there for you.
  • 3 years later
  • When I use the resize drawing area, it deletes the the sea level of my map except a very small section in the lower left area. Anyone know how I can correct that?

  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer

    Hi Gulwolf :)

    Resize is different to scale because it works by leaving most things as they are but extending the background, map border, screen and any frame the map might have. This is to increase the space available to draw extra bits onto the edges of the map, while scale just makes the whole map bigger, including all the symbols and fills.

    If you were trying to get some more space to continue the map beyond the current edges and your 'sea level' was supposed to be stretched like the background was, reverse the resize operation by doing it again but putting the old size back in, then move your sea level to the BACKGROUND layer using Change Properties. (That's the layer, not the sheet. It can stay on whatever sheet it is on.) The Resize operation should then work as before but this time include the sea level information.

    JimProflo1
  • Ah ok, that makes more since. I wondered if that was the case.

    What I want to do is reduce the scale of the entire map as I made it to big when I try and display it in Fantasy Grounds.

    JimP
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer

    That's a different thing again.

    The size of your map in CC3 doesn't really matter. It's the size you export it as an image.

    When you pick Save as... from the File menu the Save as... dialog box has a drop down box where you can pick the kind of file. Pick one of the rectangular section images. JPEG is better for VTT because PNG are a bit large. Once you've picked your Rectangular section JPEG click the Options button. That will bring up this box.

    These just happen to be my settings as they are this moment in time. They probably won't be what you need unless there is a huge coincidence. So work out how big you want your exported image (adjusting any of the settings will affect the others accordingly), and ok them. Then export your map. A rectangular section export requires you to click both the opposite corners of the rectangle you want to export.


    JimProflo1
  • That is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much!

    Loopysue
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer
  • 1 years later
  • Hello,

    I am trying to resize my map, but I am unable to change the sea level to the background. Every time I try to, the layer disappears and the background is white. Can someone help me with what I am doing wrong? I have version 3.98, if that helps.

    Thanks!

  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer
    edited April 28

    Hi :)

    Are you using the Resize Drawing Area command in the File menu, or scaling everything by hand?

    Can you show us a screen shot of the problem perhaps? Just press the Print or Print Screen button while you are looking at the open map, and then use CTRL+V to paste it into your next comment.

    It might also be a good idea to share your .FCW wile with us in case we can't work out what's wrong from the screen shot. You can upload it as an attachement using the paperclip at the bottom of the comment box.

  • Make sure you look through both SHEETS and LAYERS on your top tool bar.

    Ensure that none are locked, frozen or hidden.

    That could be a possible culprit. Those prevent changes, and if you resize, it may not have enlarged. Or may not have copied at all.

  • edited April 28

    I change 5,000 in width to 7,000.

    I get this.


    The reason that I am having this problem is that the windows viewer will not resize the map to print nicely on an 11x17 page is there anything else I can do?

    Thank you for the help!

  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer
    edited April 28

    Ah, I see what the problem is. There's a white polygon on the SCREEN sheet and layer. It goes all the way around the map to hide bits of mountains and things that are only half inside the map. It's called (rather unsurprisingly) the screen.

    Resize Drawing Area usually works without a hitch. Sometimes, however, if the difference between the original size and the new size is very great, it doesn't scale the Screen properly, and that is what's covering your background on the right side.

    You can get rid of the damaged screen either by deleting it now that your SCREEN layer is unfrozen, or by using the command COLLARDEL, which you type on your keyboard and then hit Enter.

    To make a new one just type the command COLLARAUTO and hit enter again. That should automatically draw a new screen on the correct sheet and layer. Once done, it would be worth re-freezing the SCREEN layer so you don't keep accidentally picking it while you are working on your map.

    If you are having problems printing the map because of it's size you could try exporting a jpeg instead of going straight to print. Printing an image is easier to control in a lot of ways - mostly because it's a commonly done thing.

    Don Anderson Jr.
  • Ralf or Monsen mentioned before that Jaggies are from to many nodes on an entity.

    You could run SIMPLIFY on those objects and the jaggies may go away.

    LoopysueRoyal Scribe
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 41 images Cartographer

    Ah yes, good point Don.

    That's another keyboard command. Type and hit enter. You will need to read the prompts in the command line at the bottom though. It will ask you for a distance. Use 0 (zero) to start with. If that doesn't do the trick try 0.1.

    Don Anderson Jr.
  • Awesome! I'll give this a try when I have more time tomorrow. Thank you all for commenting, I greatly appreciate it.

    Don Anderson Jr.
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