I cant get my hex grid to freeze

sevrick

I'm so tired of this. My Hex grid won't freeze. Yes the I made sure that the hex is labeled a hex. I even froze all while I had walls activated to see if that helped. when I went to copy the wall It selected the hex grid too. I could hide it and do it that way but It should not be a problem. Plz help me. I'm starting to think it's a bug.
This is what I did from the start.
1. Make a new map
2. Dungeon (decide my self)
3. DD3 Dungeon
4. 200x160
5. Grid overlay (hex, horizontal)(Grid spacing 6) (unchecked labeling)
6. Finish
7. I went to Draw>>Hex or square overlay checked draw corners and clicked apply
8. Right Clicked walls Choose Wall, cobble grey, straight
9. Then made a box wall
10. Make sure hex is frozen (and it is by default)
11. Then proceed to copy. THEN IT SELECTS THE GRID! ahhhhhhh

JimP

What layer is the grid on ? It may be on a different layer than you think it is on.

If you freeze all, except the active layer, and it is still selectable, then it is on the active layer.

MattM

Try hiding all sheets and then unhiding one at a time to see which one the grid is on.

- Matt

sevrick

I noticed it will some times it will work and others it doesn't. I did hide it. it was on the hex layer where it was supposed to be. After I hid it and brought it back it work. I mean what's going on.

Bidmaron

Nothing should be selecting when you select the copy command. The fact that it is tells me that you have a corrupted macro state. Try typing selbyd in the command line and hitting . This should reset things to normal.
The other thing I don't understand about your command sequence is the draw->grid. Seems like that should have already been set up for you when you made the new drawing. However, that shouldn't have anything to do with your problem.

sevrick

The reason I do that is because it aligns the snaps with the grid. It doesn't do that for you automatically for some reason. It took me awhile to figure out how to do that.

sevrick

He's a video of what I'm talking about

Anyway I tried typing what you said in the command bar nothing changed.

JimP

Hmmm. Typing selbyd won't show anything happening in most instances.

Layers are where things are frozen and thawed and determiones what is selected and what isn't when you use an edit, etc. command.

sevrick

??? what are you talking about? I have frozen all before and had walls selected. if thats what you getting at and it still didn't work. I even selected the grid and tried to change them to what they are supposed to be, just in case, by using the change properties button.

JimP

MattM was talking about finding out what sheet the grid is located on.

It doesn't matter as the layers freeze and thaw the grid. It has nothing to do with sheets.

Bidmaron

I have tried to repeat your command sequence on a fresh drawing, and mine is not selecting the grid. Watching the video, it is clear that you are somehow selecting the grid even with your locked layer. I am at a loss. Guess I'd recommend going to Profantasy support on this one.

sevrick

So what should the sheets be set on? It's set on walls when I try to copy it. And why should it matter what it's set on It has nothing to do with the problem at hand. I'm trying to get the hex to stop being selected when I am doing other things and the freeze function isn't doing what it says. And it's freakishly weird cause some times it works and some times it doesn't.

Joachim de Ravenbel

What about posting your file so we can see if the trouble is in the file or in the software ?

JimP

I would put the grid on grid sheet, but it doesn't matter until the grid being selected is fixed. I agree with Joachim. Post the map file.

Sven

I've noticed this too. Even by making sure it is on the hex layer & grid sheet, then hiding all the sheets & layers save the hex grid. Then I freeze it, save it, & unhide everything. It still seems to change layers & not freeze. This is an intermittent problem.

sdavies2720

Could it be that the grid is grouped? I find I can select grouped buggers even when it's most inconvenient.

Bidmaron

I'll bet that's it.

jaerdaph

Posted By: sdavies2720Could it be that the grid is grouped? I find I can select grouped buggers even when it's most inconvenient.

That's most likely it. When working with some of my dungeons, after awhile the grid would start to get selected even when frozen. I found that saving my file, closing the program and reopening fixed the problem, at least for awhile.

sdavies2720

Posted By: jaerdaphThat's most likely it. When working with some of my dungeons, after awhile the grid would start to get selected even when frozen. I found that saving my file, closing the program and reopening fixed the problem, at least for awhile.

Stuff that is grouped should stay grouped even when the file is saved and reopened. So maybe grouping is not the problem.

Steve

jaerdaph

Posted By: sdavies2720Stuff that is grouped should stay grouped even when the file is saved and reopened. So maybe grouping is not the problem.

Yes - the problem is groups (like a grid) on frozen layers eventually start to get selected even though they shouldn't be selectable. By closing CC3 and restarting, the problem goes away again for awhile. Something else is causing the behavior.

jaerdaph

And I just remembered bringing this up before and here is Ralf's explanation and workaround:

http://forum.profantasy.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=794

sdavies2720

LOL, my comment there was the same as the one here.

Sevrick: look at that thread and the workaround (which I'd forgotten). Maybe it will do what you need. If it doesn't work, I'd suggest posting the file so we can see what's up.

Steve

jaerdaph

LOL - I don't know about you, but I'm definitely getting old - I'm not remembering having the same discussions, here and elsewhere...

sevrick

Thanks that helps. But I really wish it would work with having to do that.