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    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2016
     
    Merelan City is a map I've been working on for a while. It goes with the novel I've 3/4 written, although the map is only about 2/3 completed at this stage.

    The map has 130 Sheets and approximately 3-400 sheet effects in operation. I am using the CD3 building symbols with several of the fills from the Bogie Mapping Objects collection and about 5 of my own fills (the rocks, seaweed, smoke, ground vines on top of the island and the wood for the frame that I haven't rendered in this image.
      V44 PF.JPG
    • CommentAuthorNacon4
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2016
     
    WOW How long have you been working on this?! This is major, this is fantastic! I really do want to see more of your work! I bow to the master!

    LLAP

    Nacon4
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Hey Nacon4 - thank you :)

    I'm no master. I've only been working with CC3 for about 5 months, and on this particular map for just over a month.

    I also have a trees thread (the name of which I've forgotten), but that's not really about maps :)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Anyone wanting to see a bigger picture of the same can see it here:

    https://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=34721&page=25&p=313040&viewfull=1#post313040
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    I cannot tell you how happy I am to see this map.back up and running Sue!!! It's looking fantastic, with the new symbols and bitmap fills.:-D

    You know... In some ways, I think I like it even better! It looks a lot more put together, now, more natural? No...more cohesive, I would say. Anyway, I am so looking forward to this map being complete!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Thanks Storm :)

    You and me both - on getting it finished. LOL I'm growing increasingly keen on the idea of being able to start something new. City building in a hybrid city/dungeon style like this isn't something I plan on doing again any time soon. Those I have in me waiting to come out will be a lot more simple and quicker to draw ;)
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Getting better with every version!

    Posted By: LoopysueI'm growing increasingly keen on the idea of being able to start something new. City building in a hybrid city/dungeon style like this isn't something I plan on doing again any time soon. Those I have in me waiting to come out will be a lot more simple and quicker to draw ;)


    A lot of folks are waiting to see what will come.
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      CommentAuthorMedio
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Good to see you got back to the map! Some points.

    - The vineyards job is fantastic. They really look great.
    - The new windmills size makes them harder to notice. Maybe they´re more realistic but depending on what size you´re watching the map, it misses sharpness.
    - The label works better than the old one, as it doesn´t disturb the spectator as much.
    - The walls are also fantastic. If so, maybe the western part of the wall should be lighted as the sun would hit it (considering your shadows).

    All in one, this is one of the best city maps i´ve seen, and surely the most detailed one. Keep up the great job Sue!!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Posted By: VintyriGetting better with every version!

    Posted By: LoopysueI'm growing increasingly keen on the idea of being able to start something new. City building in a hybrid city/dungeon style like this isn't something I plan on doing again any time soon. Those I have in me waiting to come out will be a lot more simple and quicker to draw ;)


    A lot of folks are waiting to see what will come.

    Thank you Vintyri :)

    A lot of the appearance of the map is down to the very fine qualities of the Bogie Mapping Objects collection of fills. In fact, take away the two grass fills and the sand fill that I'm using here and there wouldn't be much of a map left to look at. I don't actually have more than 10-12 textures in the entire map, including the five of my own that I'm using. Most of the colouring is done by HSL effect on different sheets. This is definitely going to be a bit of a shocker when I render it 'with and without effects' to show off to the PS community over at the Guild when its done. Hehe! I don't think they realise just how powerful CC3 really is.

    Posted By: MedioGood to see you got back to the map! Some points.

    - The vineyards job is fantastic. They really look great.
    - The new windmills size makes them harder to notice. Maybe they´re more realistic but depending on what size you´re watching the map, it misses sharpness.
    - The label works better than the old one, as it doesn´t disturb the spectator as much.
    - The walls are also fantastic. If so, maybe the western part of the wall should be lighted as the sun would hit it (considering your shadows).

    All in one, this is one of the best city maps i´ve seen, and surely the most detailed one. Keep up the great job Sue!!

    Thank you Medio :)

    There are certain limits on image size on this forum which make the larger maps a little tricky to present - and I never do small maps. If you want to have a look at a higher res image the identical but larger version to this one can be found over at Cartographer's Guild here:

    https://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=34721&page=25&p=313040&viewfull=1#post313040

    This one here is 1250x1250 pi, the one on the Guild is 2500x2500 - the maximum on both sites.

    (To avoid any confusion, my name over there is 'Mouse'. I chose Loopysue at a time when I didn't think very much of myself or my life, so went for something different over there when I joined, but I'm ok with it.)

    The windmills haven't been reduced any more than the buildings, and should perhaps be even smaller now that I've shrunk all the manmade features. I decided to reduce everything to emphasis just how big the temple really is, and to make the island itself big enough in comparison to the buildings to warrant the relief detail I've given it. I'm hoping to sweet-talk a certain Guild friend of mine into making one of those web maps out of it that you can zoom and pan around like a Google Earth map, but we'll see if the closer detail warrants that kind of inspection when we get there (thinking here of the trees I have yet to draw, and which still look so much like grey modelling clay when you zoom in to 'fill a screen' size) ;)

    As for the walls - the city wall is a graphic I drew for myself and is done in a 'universal' way with internal shadows to distinguish the battlements from the walkway, but I've just noticed that I seem to have lost the directional shadow effect for some reason. I'll go and have a look see where its got to. The compound wall on top of the island is a Bogie texture... Brick 08 I think, drawn as a line and given width of about 10 units then bevelled. There is a difference between the two sides of the bevel, its just that you can't really see it in this map.

    Off to add a few more houses now... TTFN
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Posted By: LoopysueHey Nacon4 - thank you :)

    I'm no master. I've only been working with CC3 for about 5 months, and on this particular map for just over a month.

    I also have a trees thread (the name of which I've forgotten), but that's not really about maps :)


    No master ? I disagree. I could get all convoluted in my response, but that will do.
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      CommentAuthorDogtag
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Posted By: JimPNo master ? I disagree. I could get all convoluted in my response, but that will do.

    +1
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    ^^ What the the fellas said. Seriously, this is a work of art in progress. Like real art.
    • CommentAuthorNacon4
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    Posted By: LoopysueHey Nacon4 - thank you :)

    I'm no master. I've only been working with CC3 for about 5 months, and on this particular map for just over a month.

    I also have a trees thread (the name of which I've forgotten), but that's not really about maps :)


    I'm not buttering you here. I can only imagine the hard work you must have done to make a map like that; and I am in awe of it
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    You're no master? Puh-lease! You don't expect anyone to believe that, do you? ;-)

    Sue, you and I apparently bought our programs about the same time... But I don't think I could create a city like this if I tried!!!
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      CommentAuthorDogtag
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016
     
    ... on a laptop.
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    actually, Dogtag, I'm on a laptop as well... so that's a consideration I don't really think about.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016 edited
     
    Ummmm.... I'm not quite sure what to say - but thank you :)

    I sit here in envy of a great many of your maps, so I am... most definitely... not alone here - whatever I am ;)

    EDIT: Oops - that was directed at everyone, btw - Storm included :)
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    lol... now it's my turn to blush!!! Well, I can definitely say this... if we continue to awe inspire each other... we are both going to be mapping goddesses! Lorelei's included in this, of course! We are STILL the three Witches of Eastwick!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2016 edited
     
    Witches of Eastwick? Oh yes - I remember now - the Vintyri Beta test team :)

    I have always relied very heavily on the advice and suggestions given to me by others here on this forum, and it has occurred to me that none of you can see the problems I'm having with this map, so I've done a couple of enlarged sections to show you.

    The first image shows the tiny land-locked bay near Somnee. To me the land STILL looks like its floating above the sand, but I'm wired a bit different to 'normal' and have a strange way of processing what I see, so it may or may not be the case. The irony here is that I once spent a lot of time trying to create a floating island, while here I'm trying to ground one! Any advice would be welcome.

    The second image shows the fuzzy road problem. I've tried all different kinds of ways to make the roads look good at close quarters, but I think that glow (in this case) isn't really working at anything other than medium zoom. All advice welcome.

    The third image shows the unnatural appearance of the vines at close quarters. I'm working on a transparent fill for this problem - one that works a bit like the seaweed fill, but its taking a while. When I've done it I will upload another close up shot of the vines and ask you what you think.
      Floating land problem.JPG
      Fuzzy road problem.JPG
      Vine problem.JPG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    Version 45:

    Its taken a while today to add all the detail to the north facing cliff beneath the observatory, complete with 90% of the paths in that area. I'm hoping to get far more done in the next 24 hrs - maybe even complete all the housing. the top of the island won't have very much on it - too dangerous to live there, except near a windmill (the movement deflects screamers in the same way that spinning DVDs deflect birds from a strawberry patch) :)
      V45 PF.JPG
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    Hmmm... The land and sand seem to me to be different pictures. Not floating, but well descriptive words fail me at things like this. But I'll give it a try.

    For the sand and land: Its like two different pictures are placed next to each other, without the frames, and of way different scenes. There is no sand on the land, and no rocks out in the sand. Wind alone would move sand onto the rocks.

    I'm not familiar with effects... but could the blending be too much ? Have you tried less blending ?
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016 edited
     
    Posted By: JimPHmmm... The land and sand seem to me to be different pictures. Not floating, but well descriptive words fail me at things like this. But I'll give it a try.

    For the sand and land: Its like two different pictures are placed next to each other, without the frames, and of way different scenes. There is no sand on the land, and no rocks out in the sand. Wind alone would move sand onto the rocks.

    Hey Jim :) All comments welcome.

    In the zoomed samples I showed the land had no edge fade inner on it, which I've since corrected in Version 45. I think I may have gone a bit too far in the other direction though. This blurs the line between land and sand (sample shot below)

    I'm going to add rocks in the sand when I get down to the detail work - trees, tents and so on, but thanks for the reminder ;)

    Posted By: JimPI'm not familiar with effects... but could the blending be too much ? Have you tried less blending ?

    I am assuming that you mean the paths? Again, I tried to do something about that problem as well in version 45 above. I inverted the edge glow (made it an inner glow instead of an outer glow), but that has had deleterious effects of a different kind - the paths are now massively overpowering as a presence - in some areas becoming the main feature of the map, which isn't what I intended.

    I think I will have to have another play with them today, but for now I'm just trying to get as many of the buildings set in as possible.

    I know this might sound insane (since I haven't made any of the trees or tents just yet) but I'm trying to get it finished in the next 12 days.

    Thanks for commenting :D
      Sample.jpg
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    Danke.

    As I said, I'm unfamiliar with effects. But I have done a bit of them. How about the width of the effects on the roads/paths ? The paths look blurry to me. So, I'm not sure how to explain it otherwise.

    Yes, the sand does zoom out onto the land... I did spend a few decades living near Biloxi, Missisippi. They had miles of beaches. When it gets windy, lots of that sand winds up a mile or more inland. Most of it lands on the coast highway and people's yard for around 500-1000 feet from the beach. That scattering of sand is what I was more refering to. Its not a wave of sand coming ashore, but patches of sand. So I don't think an effect will fix the look. (I hadn't eaten when I first posted and I have now, along with some exercise.) My suggestion would be patches of sand on the rocks and a bit past the rocks. Some with glow, and some without.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016 edited
     
    Yes - the paths are a problem at the moment. they look different at different scales, but that's what you get with a glow (it seems). I don't want them to have artificially sharp edges because they are un-metalled roads, but I do need them to be in focus, which is a different thing.

    I will probably continue to mess around with them.

    No map tonight, btw - I'm busy trying to lay out a new and rather ridged Blucran road system on the upper reaches of the island, in juxtaposition to the lax and lazy curves of the Merlish parts of the city.

    I live in a seaside resort, so I know what you mean about the piles of blown sand. They just drift into existence like snow drifts all over the place, and being caught walking up the sea front in a gale is just downright unpleasant. You don't exactly need any fancy face treatments to remove old skin around here - you just go for a walk down town on a windy day LOL

    If I need the sand drifts just one more sheet should suffice for them, if I need them by the time I've finished jamming this map full of boats, trees and tents...
      Snapshot.JPG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    The funny colours are just temporary, by the way - a visual guide so I don't have to think about which of the six levels I'm adding houses to once I've zoomed in to sort out the business end of this job. I then only have to worry about whether each house should go on the shaded sheet for that level or not (They don't cast shadows where the shadow of the relief shading is already present, or it causes problems with transparency acne)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    I can only think of two ways to give a non-straight edge to a path.

    1) Fractalize at a strength of less than 5.

    2) Use a poly to draw the paths, with a sand or grainy bitmap fill. That is, if you aren't already using a polygon to draw the paths.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    Thanks for your suggestions Jim, but I have too much else going on in this drawing to fractalize anything if I don't have to. I'm trying to keep the number of nodes down just a bit. The map is 5000 x 5000, has 131 Sheets, and about 3-400 effects. There are 8 layers of rock and double that of grass - another 8 of roads and tracks, and so on. There are already waaaay too many nodes in this map without adding any more :)

    The paths are drawn with a variety of tools depending on the size and function of the road. Footpaths are drawn with the hand drawing tool with a width of 3 or 5 map units, while town roads around the harbour are drawn as straight lines and the big roads wrapped around the island are curved lines, all with a width of 10 - the biggest of 25 or 30.

    With the roads Its not the straightness of the edge but the definition. I need the edge of the road to blend into the grass, but giving it either an edge fade or a glow causes the texture of the road to look fuzzy in comparison with the grass and houses at close zoom levels.

    I'm working on it, and I'll let you know how I did it when I find the solution ;)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    Okay.

    And I rarely fractalize more than 3 clicks. I think 1 might work for your paths.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    We'll see ;)

    Thanks again.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016
     
    You're welcome. And good luck solving it !
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2016 edited
     
    I think I have, but not in the usual way ;)

    The real problem was that although a nice sharp dark inner glow works pretty well to define the roads and sink then into the ground, my roads and tracks are on 8 different sheets, so when I try to join them you can see the join around the end of the road that's on the higher Sheet (lower in the list). What I've done is create another sheet (132) with the same HSL settings as the other 8 road sheets, but with no glow on it whatsoever. This "Junction" sheet is set highest of all above all the others in the map, and can be used to 'blend over' the join with smaller lines - like stitching the roads that are on different sheets together. Its a lot of work, and its not something I'm going to do until the rest of the map has been completely finished, but at least I know how to solve it now.

    I know I said there wasn't going to be a map today... er, this morning (its 4.30 am here), but In this version I'm showing the process of planning the road structure on an area of map where they have not yet been defined. These are the thin white lines in the south west of the map. The strange colours on the land beneath them are a temporary transparent markers that help me see at a glance which of the sheets I need to place the roads and houses on when I get to the point of making everything final.

    All these marks are just an idea, since many of the roads are in ridiculous or impractical places, but they help me think where I'm going when I have the snaking end of an actual road attached to my cursor, and I'm laying it down on the land - one click at a time :)
      V46 PF.JPG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2016
     
    Version 47

    I've more or less completed the lower half of the area I marked up yesterday (except that because its full of orchards, and the trees aren't there yet it looks a lot too bare), and will move on to hopefully finish the housing altogether in the next version.

    Then I just have the trees, tents and boats to sort out :)
      V47 PF.JPG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 8th 2016
     
    Version 48

    Buildings, textures, roads and paths all finished as far as I am concerned. There may be a long wait for the next version, since now I have the trees, tents and boats to sort out.
      V48 PF.JPG
    • CommentAuthorBarliman
    • CommentTimeSep 8th 2016
     
    This has really turned out nicely. I had thought the "terraces" of elevation were going to look too stark and artificial, but you've proved me wrong. Great work! :)
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Just beautiful. I think Ralf should use your map as a representative of just what this program can do.....People need to see that quality photorealistic maps CAN be made with CC3+ and look just as if not better than some of the maps made in PS or GIMP!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Posted By: BarlimanThis has really turned out nicely. I had thought the "terraces" of elevation were going to look too stark and artificial, but you've proved me wrong. Great work! :)

    Thanks Barliman :)

    I was also insanely worried about the appearance of the terraces, especially when I only added to the "layered Cake" effect by following them with the roads and buildings, but I figure that what's left of the steps will be greatly softened by the addition of trees - of which there will be almost as many as there are houses by the time I'm really finished.

    Posted By: LoreleiJust beautiful. I think Ralf should use your map as a representative of just what this program can do.....People need to see that quality photorealistic maps CAN be made with CC3+ and look just as if not better than some of the maps made in PS or GIMP!

    Thanks Lorelei :)

    I would be very flattered if he did, but I haven't finished it yet! Who knows what kind of mess I'm going to make of it with the trees!!! LOL
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    I have every confidence that this map will be brilliant when it's done!
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Posted By: LadieStormI have every confidence that this map will be brilliant when it's done!


    I fully agree !
    • CommentAuthorMappy
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    It's been 55 minutes since the last compliment, so now it's time for one from me. This map is really awesome and I've been happily following it's progression. The contours and shading are incredible. It looks like something that has been done in photoshop and has taken at least a year to make. Shows how good CC3 is and indeed how good your mapping skills are. Once again...Awesome :)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Oh wow! The weird weather over here cut my mobile broadband all afternoon... then I came back to this!

    Don't know what to say - other than THANK YOU - all of you :D

    (and now I really DO hope the trees are going to come out all right, or you'll all be real disappointed! LOL)
    • CommentAuthorBill
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    So incredibly beautiful. Where is the real estate office? I see a nice villa I have my eye on!

    Awesome job!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Thanks Bill :)

    Real estate? Hmmmn. Well... there are a couple of properties that have already been reserved by one of the Community Leaders over on Cartographer's Guild, but I'm sure we can manage to find you one to suit. I have to warn you, however, that it will only be a short tem rental, and that you would be strongly advised to book a place on one of the Merlish fishing boats for the big exodus just before the end of the world ;)
    • CommentAuthorBill
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Ok, with that reply, now I need the novel that goes with that story!
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    Posted By: LoreleiJust beautiful. I think Ralf should use your map as a representative of just what this program can do.....People need to see that quality photorealistic maps CAN be made with CC3+ and look just as if not better than some of the maps made in PS or GIMP!


    I agree. I've known it could do this stuff for a long time now as I went to school for Computer Aided Drafting and Design, which uses FastCAD. And this program is based off of the FastCAD engine. Knowing what FastCAD engine was capable of, I just knew that if someone wanted to put in the effort, CC3+ would produce fantastic results as FastCAD is an incredible program by itself.

    Thank you Sue for being the one to prove it. I love how far you've come with this and the results you have gotten from it. I haven't wanted to track all of the sheets and effects, nor experiment with them for fear of somehow breaking my maps, so I'm glad you had the courage to do so.

    Now I am beginning to wonder what it can do with maps that are not photorealistic. I've been partial to cartoon art for years but I still like photorealistic as well. Maybe some experimentation is in order.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Posted By: BillOk, with that reply, now I need the novel that goes with that story!

    Sorry Bill, I haven't finished it yet, but I'll let you know when I do. Map and novel have somehow managed to become melded into one thing in my head - a bit like conjoined twins, but in such a way that the map has to be completed before I can complete the book ;)

    Posted By: tonnichiwa
    Posted By: LoreleiJust beautiful. I think Ralf should use your map as a representative of just what this program can do.....People need to see that quality photorealistic maps CAN be made with CC3+ and look just as if not better than some of the maps made in PS or GIMP!


    I agree. I've known it could do this stuff for a long time now as I went to school for Computer Aided Drafting and Design, which uses FastCAD. And this program is based off of the FastCAD engine. Knowing what FastCAD engine was capable of, I just knew that if someone wanted to put in the effort, CC3+ would produce fantastic results as FastCAD is an incredible program by itself.

    Thank you Sue for being the one to prove it. I love how far you've come with this and the results you have gotten from it. I haven't wanted to track all of the sheets and effects, nor experiment with them for fear of somehow breaking my maps, so I'm glad you had the courage to do so.

    Now I am beginning to wonder what it can do with maps that are not photorealistic. I've been partial to cartoon art for years but I still like photorealistic as well. Maybe some experimentation is in order.


    Thanks Tonichiwa :)

    Think outside the box. That's the most important thing. And don't start a map by thinking about what you can't do, but by imagining how you want it to look, then striving to achieve that goal, because as you have already said FastCad is unbelievably powerful.

    I don't know how much of a shocking revelation this will be to you, but there is at least one thing that PS users find quite difficult to emulate, and that is the Edge Fade, Inner when its set to anything other than the default settings. My ocean, with its fade from 15% opacity to 80% opacity, is far easier in CC3 than it can ever be in PS, and I know that much because I tried really quite hard to help a PS user get to the same point with only limited success - that user being one of the DeviantArt members over at the Guild ;)
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    That is good to know Sue, I've been wondering what things cc3+ could do that are either more hard in Photoshop or impossible. I'm sure there are more just waiting to be discovered. Admittedly cc3+ is limited by the fact that while it uses FastCAD as a base, it does not have all of the capabilities of FastCAD. It has been tailored specifically for map making, not making the engineering drawings for a Boeing 767 aircraft. Still, that should give us some things that Photoshop or Gimp cannot do or find it hard to do. Now it is just a matter of testing to see what it can really do.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016 edited
     
    The best bit is I haven't even worked with quite a few of the effects. The bravest I've been so far is to use the RGB Matrix Process to colour the seaweed, which in reality is a partially transparent black and white bitmap ;)

    I'm going to have a go with the lighting effects in my next map, which will be of the ruins of Urrowan Palace, where the bi-coloured, shape-shifting were-hawk Zorrani live in exile from the other 4 peoples of Ethran. It's the home of my second protagonist - Astra.

    That should be quite an interesting experiment!

    Here are the effects I haven't yet explored, highlighted in yellow:
      effects.png
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    I've made my first official tree!!! Full technicolour (well... brownish... orangish... white)
      Dead Tree 01 in use.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Great job, Sue!!! Much improvement from the first :)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2016
     
    Thanks Lorelei :)

    Working on the variations now...