Thanks for another great set of maps @Ricko Hasche. You've put us across the 700 maps milestone with those.

Ortho doesn't like when the snap grid is a hex grid. Right click ortho, and set the grid to any rectangular grid instead of that "user hexgrid", that should fix it.

@mazdoc's entry is now in the atlas. Thanks for participating and contributing.

This thread contain some of the more common issues users of Campaign Cartographer experience. This is a good list to check if you have an issue, and it is a good place to point people asking questions in the forum if their solution is found here.

You'll also find another FAQ over at the main ProFantasy page which covers some types of questions not addressed here.

If you point people to this thread, I recommend pointing them directly to the right question. You can get the URL directly to any comment by right-clicking the post date (below the poster's name) and select 'Copy Link Location' (wording varies a bit between browsers, but will be something similar) to copy the URL to your clipboard for pasting into another post.

You may have downloaded the fixed version Ralf just put up to your Mac. The new fixed version does contain the files, and should install them properly.

For those interested in the technical details, the reason for the lines was that when the symfill files didn't exist, CC3+ failed to load them, so it used the default settings. Which happens to be a very simple vertical line symbol.

You ask about text, but you also talk about things like political borders and stuff, so it seems like that should be taken into consideration.

Now, to start, I personally hate PhotoShop, I find it cumbersome, difficult and intuitive to use, and on top of that, expensive. But, there are other image editors out there so I'll not jump to the conclusion of using CC3+ just because I don't like the other option.

But, you obviously isn't skilled in PS yourself, given that you don't know the difficulty of working with text, which more or less brings me to a conclusion right away, use what you know. If you know how to do things in CC3+ there isn't really a good reason to use an image editor, unless you want to use it more as a training exercise to learn that software rather than use what would be most appropriate for you.

Considering that both options do allow a layered approach, both can be used for the task, but if you import the map to scale in CC3+ before drawing on top of it, you can also use various tools to do things like measuring length and area, including measuring length along a curved line, which I personally find extremely nice when working with maps, so I would probably pick CC3+ for that option alone.

The only reason where I feel the image editor may be a bit stronger is making the things you draw on top of the scanned image appear better "integrated" into the image. But this is something that takes skill with the image editor, it doesn't come for free, and you can get a long way in the same direction by using sheet effects.

🎬️ Videos: Short tutorial +++ Intro video about sheets

This happens because of sheet order. For performance reasons, when you place a symbol (or other entity), it is always displayed on top of everything else, until you do something that redraws the screen, such as scrolling, zooming or hitting the :CC2REDRAW: button, as this causes the view to be redrawn, and entities such as symbols will be drawn in their actual position in the drawing order

If your symbol disappeared when you did that, it is an indication that it was placed on a sheet below something else that covers it up. Most symbols and tools choose their own sheet, but if you were using one that didn't do that, it might be that your active sheet is low in the order, or perhaps you have another entity late in the drawing order that covers up things it shouldn't.

You can check which sheet an entity is on by using the List command in the Info menu, or you can try to temporarily hide some of the sheets in the list. There are multiple ways to move an entity to a different sheet, but :CC2MCHANGE: is a good way.

Remember that when CC3+ draws entities on screen, it starts with the top sheet in the list and draws that to the screen, then it goes to the next one, and draws the content of that sheet on top of what's already been drawn and so on. This means that entities on sheets later (further down) in the sheet list will appear on top of things earlier (further up) in the list, and the entities on the very bottom sheet will appear on top of everything else.

I can't make all potential useful topics sticky, the front page would just be a long list of stickies, which is not very user-friendly. Instead, it is listed in the resources category, which you can find directly from the left-hand navigation menu (Helpful resources and FAQ link)

You'll find a lot of it in the tome somewhere, but there is no dedicated section just describing the special sheets, it's more a thing you pick up a bit from here and a bit from there.

For the SCREEN sheet, it's not that special, really, but because the canvas in CC3+ is unlimited in size, if you put a symbol at the "edge" of the the map, it won't be clipped, it will simply extend off it. The SCREEN sheet typically holds a white polygon that simply covers up all those bits sticking out.

For the MAP BORDER, the map border sheet just holds the graphical decorative map border. It is usually placed last in the list to put a nice frame on top of things. The "technical" map border, which define the size of the maps, and that drawing tools use as the edge to know where to stop drawing, is simply 4 lines on the MAP BORDER layer, they can be on any sheet, but usually the live on BACKGROUND.

Note that the next update (the one currently in public beta) have an improved version of the text along a curve command that handles this issue.