Atlas Ferraris development

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  • This is probably the most complicated (in a good way) mapping style I have seen yet... :D But, then, I'm still quite the n00b, so take that with a big ole grain of salt... :D

    Still, this is just jaw dropping work.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Thank you, Jon :)

    Most of that complication is pure texture work. It's all in the patterns.

    Not much of what you see there is actually symbols - only the bushes and orchard trees (which are both placed automatically anyway), the dunes, and the curtain wall towers. The rest is all textures and sheet effects.
  • These are the moments when I start to miss the "Wow" or "Like" - buttons in this forum...
    Fantastic maps Sue!
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    LOL! Me too. I even catch myself glancing down for them from time to time.

    Thanks Andre. I'm working now to try and take the strain out of drawing all the various parts of it so it will hopefully be no more trouble than your average city map. That's why there are so very many drawing tools.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Can anyone tell me where the line styles are saved?

    I have the "Ferraris footpath"in all the FCWs I've got because it was created early on, but I've just found a line style I want to call "Ferraris fence line". I've created it in the legend, but I can't think for the life of me how to get it into the example map - or for that matter the template.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼 81 images Cartographer
    Line styles are stored in the actual .fcw's. If you create a new one, you'll have to manually add it to each file through the line style dialog. (It is also copied over by using the insert file trick that is commonly used to copy over fill styles)
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    I had a feeling that was the case.

    Thanks Remy :)

    I will probably just pretend to copy the Legend into all the maps I've done.

    Or would it be sufficient to create and save the drawing tool, and then use the drawing tool just the once in each of the other FCWs? (I'm trying not to cross contaminate newer sheet systems with the older ones)
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼 81 images Cartographer
    edited December 2019
    Not quite sure about the drawing tool route (since I have never tested that), but I don't think that will work, since drawing tools rely on line styles defined in the map, just as they relay on fill styles in the map, and don't work properly if those aren't present.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Ok. I think you are probably right. I discovered the fill style issue when I tried to use my new breakwater tool in the Legend. I had forgotten to import the new breakwater fill I created for it.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Ok. I decided to have a go at adding the control points to a set of houses I drew and made into symbols, so that they would work just like city buildings (though only from the point of view that they will align to the road).

    All went well, but I seem to have this curious problem.

    When I paste them one after another in a row the selection is random, but when I'm aligning them to the curve below that row the random thing doesn't work any more. I have to hit TAB to get a new house to paste.

    Am I doing something wrong here?
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼 81 images Cartographer
    Seems like that is just the way it works. Don't think that is intentional though, probably a bug.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Oh dear!

    Well, then, apart from including instructions to hit TAB between each paste I also need to do more houses, since a lot of the variation depended entirely on random x reflections.
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  • edited August 2020
    Here are two current photos of French fortifications in Mali in the current day. I stuck them here because of Sue's magnificent fortifications she developed for this style, so it looks like they belong.

    As a tactician, I find this very cool. During Desert Storm, we had the engineers build simple rectangular berms around our life support area (where our tents were) and the Command Post (where we worked), about 1KM apart. There were four "bunkers" (to be chartiable on each corner, but unlike these, they did not cover the front of the walls very well, so there would be places where bad guys could get up next to the wall and work there way up or through it without us having to expose ourselves to stop them. With these, there is none of that Dead Space for them to be safe in, and I always thought we should do this.

    Every now and then I think briefly about moving to my Mom's land in Missouri which has nice terrain, a stream, and good fields of fire, buying ye olde dubble wide trailer, and then preparing walls like this, only with a moat using the streams. Alligators would not do well there, so I'd have to find other stuff.

    For that matter, these are very much like Roman Fortifications as well. Only bigger and no spikes sticking out of them, but who needs spike when you have machine guns and hand grenades?
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    Yes, they are pretty cool, aren't they :)

    I find it fascinating that this form of fortification is still used today. I usually think of modern fortifications as being nuclear-proof underground bunkers!
  • Well, these are useless against modern artillery, but against low tech forces can provide protection.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼 81 images Cartographer
    Posted By: mike robelEvery now and then I think briefly about moving to my Mom's land in Missouri which has nice terrain, a stream, and good fields of fire, buying ye olde dubble wide trailer, and then preparing walls like this, only with a moat using the streams. Alligators would not do well there, so I'd have to find other stuff.
    Table top not doing it for you anymore? Planning on moving your war games to 1:1 scale? :)
  • JimPJimP 🖼 280 images Departed Legend - Rest in Peace
    I saw a cartoon years ago where a guy had placed lawyers in his moat. He claimed it was cheaper than alligaters.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼 81 images Cartographer
    Clearly a much better deterrent than alligators, but I really have to question cheaper here. Those guys are expensive :)
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼 41 images Cartographer
    But doesn't not paying them make them even more vicious?
  • JimPJimP 🖼 280 images Departed Legend - Rest in Peace
    I think they competed on attacking whomever fell into, or tried to cross, the moat. He apparently didn't pay them.
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