Community Atlas - Manor

[Deleted User]

Sue gave a link to the drawing below, and I was so taken with it, that I decided I would turn it into a CC3+ map, and put it in the Atlas. The question is where. I need a feudal type society, and someone who has already drawn a regional map I can fit it into. So while I do this map, can you put your thinking caps on and make suggestions. That includes the Magnificent Monsen and Dogged Dogtag.

Dogtag

Great idea, Quenten. I really liked that map when I zipped over to that linked page, myself, though I figured I'd just use it as a reference. Making a CC3 map out of the original should be a lot of fun.

Out of curiosity, why do you need the larger maps (i.e., continent, regional, etc.)? Why place those limits on yourself? The manor is small enough that it should be able to fit into nearly any regional map. In fact, why not just do what the original map does and make it a "typical feudal manor" map? That way anyone using the atlas could just plop it down in any other map they choose? The Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas (FRIA) did this with some of it's maps, to great effect.

Just my two cents.

Cheers,
~Dogtag

Dogtag

Also, if you're concerned about linking it somewhere from another atlas map, is that entirely necessary? Even if it is, couldn't that simply be done later, after you've done the map and you, or Monsen, or someone suggests a parent link?

[Deleted User]

Well I was going to do the map regardless. I just would like it to be linked to someone's are. I could, at a pinch, put it in Peredur (Artemisia's cultures are not typical feudal) but I would like it to go on someone else's map, if possible. But as you say, in the end, we can decide that when it is finished. Thanks, O Dogged Dogtag.

Loopysue

Um... It wasn't me, Quenten.

I can't remember who it was either.

Just checked - it was Barliman

I gave a link to an aerial photograph of Portland Bill, taken by the Luftwaffe in the early stages of WWII

Dogtag

I'm pretty sure you can just ask Monsen to reserve an area on any map. No one needs permission from another contributor to make a sub-map of any other map on the atlas. As I understand it, Monsen would just like the "heads-up" before anyone begins a map so he can help to prevent two conflicting versions of the same location. I presume you could just pick a spot, so long as someone else hasn't already reserved it. I could be wrong — I'm not involved with the atlas — but that's my understanding, based on the stickied atlas discussion.

Dogtag

Loopysue pointed out:Um... It wasn't me, Quenten.

I can't remember who it was either.

Back in ta minute or two when I've found the thread

You and Barliman both posted URLs to examples nearly right after each other. This map is from Barliman's link to Wikipedia.

[Deleted User]

Okey dokey. First time I have ever been wrong. Oh dearie me.

JimP

Forlorn Archipelago is feudal.

[Deleted User]

Great JimP, I'll put it there - which island do you suggest (perhaps either Justice or Fisher)

Monsen

Since a manor is a bit tricky to link from a large-scale map, may I suggest putting it in Basher Bay or Growler Bay then? We could just link a small area from here which would go to the manor grounds.

[Deleted User]

Basher Bay it is

JimP

Works for me.

[Deleted User]

A start (rough) on the Manor map in Basher Bay

Topdecker

Are you going to try to cut it up with fences, stone walls, hedge-rows, discernable terracing, or otherwise try to make those funny shaped fields develop on the map? Because that sounds work intensive

Also, I would image that the manor house would be on the high-side of the stream, looking down on the village and the minions toiling there.

Tim

[Deleted User]

Right on both counts. I just wanted to get the map started by laying down the various backgrounds. Fields, more detail on the houses, and a small hill will come soon (I hope)

Loopysue

This is coming on nicely - can't wait to see what you make of the strip lychetts :P

[Deleted User]

Or what the strip lychetts make of me!

HadrianVI

This looks very nice, Quenten. I'm looking forward to see your progress.

[Deleted User]

Here is my progress to date on the Manor (for Basher Bay in the Atlas). Doing the Spring plantings at present - the Autumn plantings field will be different shades of brown.

JimP

Oooh ! I like it !

[Deleted User]

Manor update - need to tidy up village, add fences and hedges, and redo stream. Comments please

[Deleted User]

I think this is dne, unless any have comments that need addressing. Don't feel shy.

Monsen

Could you show us a closeup of the extended village?

Personally, I would consider experimenting with a bit larger scale for the forest textures, thereby making the trees a bit more obvious, and the texture repeating a bit less.

ScottA

I really like the looks of the field fills, but the forest fill is really repetitive.

Barliman

Just for another suggestion, the heavy-brush font (used in "Lord's woods", for example), is a bit harsh to my eyes. Maybe something lighter?

[Deleted User]

Thanks guys for these suggestions, just what I wanted. I will change the font - I guess I have had a niggling feel about that too. I will fiddle with the fills, but I don't want anything too fancy. Thought I might add a hermit and gallows (at the crossroads of course).

[Deleted User]

Just some tidying up of the hedges, then the Map Notes (very brief) and off to Monsen. Please comment freely - helpful criticism, as above is best

[Deleted User]

Just some tidying up of the hedges, then the Map Notes (very brief) and off to Monsen. Please comment freely - helpful criticism, as above is best

[Deleted User]

And here's the close up of the village

Monsen

To me, that gray stone/gravel field around the manor/church looks a bit out of place. The original map doesn't show detail at that level, but I would imagine it would be grass/dirt, with paths between houses, not a solid field of gravel.
I think the forests look much better now with the new scale, and I also like the fonts better. As for the fonts though, did you make sure these are either standard windows fonts, or fonts installed with CC3+ or addons? Otherwise, most users will only see a plain replacement font, including me when I render it.