How do you keep the outer contour lines after adding more land & remove the new contour lines inland

New CC3+ user here.

I know I have another thread going about something else but this is something I was trying to get to work as well and couldn't figure out. So I thought I would ask anyway.

I was wondering if there was a way to keep the contour lines of an island while at the same time adding more landmass to the island to give it a different look. Then remove the contour lines that show up inland from the new piece of landmass you just added. Is there a way to merge all of them together? I see a merge layer not sure if that is where I would try to do this or not.

Would I use send behind to do this?

Or would I just go to edit/reshape/stretch?

Also how do I erase an edge or part of an island without erasing the whole island?

I like the contour line look on the outside edge of my island is why I'm asking.

I scrambled some landmass on an island as an example and attached a FCW of it so you can see what I'm talking about.

Comments

  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    edited November 2016
    Its sometimes better to upload an image of what you want to talk about rather than an FCW file. We usually only request the FCW file when there's a really tricky problem that no one can figure out just by looking at the image.

    (this is particularly more helpful from my point of view, since I am currently working on a very large and complicated map that I have to keep closing down if I want to look at your map in between times)

    Do you have a screen shot to show us what you mean?

    This is just an observation here: I have a feeling from the way you are talking about layers all the time that you may be placing more importance on them than they deserve. While they are sometimes important for freezing certain aspects of the map to make drawing easier, the sheets are far more important and powerful than layers. Sheets are the CC3 equivalent to PS layers, while CC3 layers are something else altogether ;)
  • Sorry about that here is an image of what I'm talking about
  • On the left side of the island, how would I make the contour lines that are inland disappear? right now they look like weird rivers
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    edited November 2016
    Based on the remark you made last of all I have a feeling that you are talking about the blue line around the land, rather than any contour. Is that right? You have me confused, because the blue line around the land is the coastline, and in this style I believe it is on a separate sheet of its own, called something like COASTLINE. I think (though I may be wrong because I rarely ever use anything other than Herwin Wielink overland style) that if you use the standard and unaltered land drawing tool to add another bit to your island the effect you desire is automatic. I think you just draw it, and where the new land overlaps the existing land it merges together without you having to do anything to make it so.

    Removing part of the land is usually done by moving the nodes, using the move nodes tool, or by freehand drawing the new bit and then redrawing the land by tracing the original as far as it remains, then tracing the freehand drawn line instead of the bit you want to get rid of, then deleting the original.

    Those weird rivers are part of the blue coastline and will be on the coastline sheet. Try hiding everything else except the coastline sheet and seeing if you can dissect the intruding lines.

    Failing that, try tracing all the way around the entire landmass to make it one block instead of many, and delete all the smaller blocks.

    I might, however be wrong on all those counts, since I seem to be having a bit of trouble deciphering your questions - probably because I am as usual over-tired ;)
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    Quite possibly the easier way is to just delete all the coastlines and use instead a blue glow on the land sheet to give almost exactly the same effect. That, at least, will never intrude inland and will take care of itself without you having to worry about it.
  • No you have answered my questions great Loopysue. You have helped me out with both of my threads. Adding the blue glow on the land sheet worked and has made it look the way I wanted it. I think I have CC3+ down somewhat now so tomorrow I'm going to start a city map. I love this program, way faster then photoshop my god. lol

    Thanks again
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    I came here this morning to look back at the muddle I left you with in case I could de-muddle it any, and find myself pleasantly surprised that you managed to decipher all of my small-hour ramblings!

    Well done :)
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    One piece of advice here, DON'T try to edit your landmass by drawing a new piece on top like you seem to have done here, that only leads to more problems down the road. If you find that you want to edit your landmass, start the default land tool as normal, but look at the command line, it will offer you to hit E for edit. Do that, and it asks you to start a point on your landmass to start editing. Using this feature allows you to both add on to and subtract from an existing landmass very easily, while everything still stays in one single manageable piece.
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