Why does this map open weird?

Barliman

Hi all,

I wanted to view the .FCW files of Mappy's excellent "Manticore's Tavern" maps, but they do not open right in CC3+ (or CC3). I have DD3 installed in both and Symbol Set 4 installed for CC3+. When I open the file for Floor 1 in CC3+, what I see is:



Why am I seeing this on-Acid version, instead of the map as drawn?

Monsen

You need to turn on the effects.

Mappy

Hehheh. Yeah thats my style! If you turn on the effects, all that should go away. The black areas become more transparent, but still dark to represent darker areas of the map. The reddy purple area covering the whole map is a mask sheet put between the black sheet and symbols as for some reason the symbols were interfering with the black. The yellow bits are torch light and fade out a bit once the effects are on.

So turn on effects and fingers crossed, the map should look a bit better You might have to change the fill style of the flooring because I modified an existing fill to make the scale a bit smaller and I would guess this would not carry over to somebody opening the map on their own computer.

Monsen

Posted By: MappyI modified an existing fill to make the scale a bit smaller

How did you modify it? If you modify it by changing the scaling properties in the fill style dialog, this is a per-map setting that will follow the map.

Mappy

Posted By: Monsen

Posted By: MappyI modified an existing fill to make the scale a bit smaller

How did you modify it? If you modify it by changing the scaling properties in the fill style dialog, this is a per-map setting that will follow the map.

Yep, I do change the scale in the fill style dialog box, after creating a new fill based on an original one. So wether the new one gets carried across I don't know?

Um not sure if this is the normal way or not, I suspect there is a more sensible technique but if there is a fill style I like but could be scaled a bit bigger or smaller I do this:

Say, if it some flooring I want to change:

Right click the default floor button
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and then click advanced and scroll down the list until you find and select the fill style you want to change

Draw a little shape somewhere where it wont be in the way

Left click the "Extract properties" button, the one that looks like an eye dropper.
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Left click on the edge of the shape and this will change all the properties in boxes on top right of screen

Left click the Fill style box (the one furthest to the right)
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This brings up details about the current fill style.
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Click "New" and enter a new name for your soon to be modified fill style.
Change the Width and Height numbers towards the bottom of this window, make the numbers larger to make the texture larger, or smaller to make it smaller. Make sure the numbers are the same otherwise it will get all skewed and look weird.
Click OK

Took me a long time before I knew how to use the "Extract properties" tool, but now that I've got my head around it, I use it quite often.

Monsen

So what you are doing is basically creating a new fill style. Since fill styles are per-map, whatever you do in the fill style dialog will follow the map and be available for all users of that map (Except if you create a new fill style and point it to a custom bitmap file. In that case, they will have the fill style itself, but it will show up as red X'es.).


You do seem to be doing this just a tad bit complicated though. If you hit the Advanced button after right-clicking the default floor button (or any other button that brings up the list of drawing tools), you can just examine the properties of each drawing tool directly and see what fill style they use. Then, open the fill style dialog by clicking on the fill style indicator, go to the 'bitmap files' tab and select the style name you learned from the drawing tool. At this point, you can continue from where you click 'New' in your post above.

Barliman

"You need to turn on the effects."

Well, that was dumb of me.

JimP

Posted By: Barliman"You need to turn on the effects."

Well, that was dumb of me.

You should see the bigger mistakes I made in the past. Or maybe not... they aren't pretty.