Perhaps you could add some more features outside of the town itself? Like hedfes, copses of trees, foelds, etc. It looks a little empty outside the walls.
As for the index: I find it better to not do any line breaks in the labels I add. Doing the index then looks better. You can always go into the labels later and edit them - far harder to edit the index.
What I tend to do is to first put the labels into the map, as I want to have them appear in the index, for example "1 - House of Swords". Then I do the index, and afterwards edit the original labels, for example making the text "1" only.
I'll tell you this. For a first attempt with a CD3 map, this looks fantastic. Well done.
I really like the shadow effects that CD3 uses. It gives the map a very professional look.
I really like the inclusion of some vegetation in between some of the buildings. It adds a "lived in" kind of atmosphere to the place.
The make up of the pier/dock is very nice.
I have two comments and Ralf already mentioned one. I would definitely add more "stuff" to the area outside of the wall. It looks too empty. I would also add some type of highlight to your labels on the map. The label for King's Road, as an example, is a little hard to read due to it's location and the shadows that are cast on it from the surrounding buildings. I would also break the label for roads to conform to the contour of the road. For example the label "Temple Street" seems a little out of place because it goes into the "hedge"
Perhaps you could add some more features outside of the town itself? Like hedfes, copses of trees, foelds, etc. It looks a little empty outside the walls.
As for the index: I find it better to not do any line breaks in the labels I add. Doing the index then looks better. You can always go into the labels later and edit them - far harder to edit the index.
Hi Ralf - thanks for the kind words. I will try your advice later when i get chance and repost the map in a revised form !
Posted By: Dkarr I have two comments and Ralf already mentioned one. I would definitely add more "stuff" to the area outside of the wall. It looks too empty. I would also add some type of highlight to your labels on the map. The label for King's Road, as an example, is a little hard to read due to it's location and the shadows that are cast on it from the surrounding buildings. I would also break the label for roads to conform to the contour of the road. For example the label "Temple Street" seems a little out of place because it goes into the "hedge".
Hi Dkarr,
Your comment on the labels hadn't occurred to me - mind you i'd spent 4 hours staring at the screen and the manual to get the software figured out. I shall make some modifications later and repost.
Hi Greebo - start to finish including learning curve and amendment id say about 4 hours. I think you could halve that for me to reproduce it with what I now know.
Yes - i have used it but only made perhaps 3 or 4 maps. Ive got more experience of CC2 pro and CC3. Ive rarely attempted town and city maps because if im honest i always thought they weren't worth the effort. CD3 does make it very easy to do a lot of things which i found great.
Posted By: pvernonVery nice, I think the entire plan looks convincing. If I were doing a fantacy game at the moment I would steal it in a heart beat.
The only thing I thik I would do is to change the shadow on the garden hedges. It is stronger that your buildings and equal to the town walls.
Im not sure if i can effect individual shadows - i shall take a look, I think its a global setting though. Thanks for the input and of course you are more than welcome to use anything i post here.
Rger, Pvernon is right on his comment on how to change/setup the hedges to look 'softer'. The added tree's do a load to the map itself, and the farms etc outside the city walls definantly make things look a ton better.
With the comments on how long it takes to make a city map etc.. Even with CD3 people should realise it's not a instant push button excilent map made I think Roger and any one else playing around with CD3 will atest to that.. Now that CD3 is out I might look at doing that Tutorial or rather finishing it lol.
Posted By: RobRger, Pvernon is right on his comment on how to change/setup the hedges to look 'softer'. The added tree's do a load to the map itself, and the farms etc outside the city walls definantly make things look a ton better.
With the comments on how long it takes to make a city map etc.. Even with CD3 people should realise it's not a instant push button excilent map made I think Roger and any one else playing around with CD3 will atest to that.. Now that CD3 is out I might look at doing that Tutorial or rather finishing it lol.
I must admit it does look better now ive added the stuff outside the pallisade - thanks for the advice all on that one !
And just to back Rob up CD3 is not a click and bingo instant map kind of programme. You do need to have a base knowledge of CC3 to truly get the best out of it. Having said that it just takes a little patience and you can quickly produce something usable (see map above). I have a lot to learn with CC3, DD3 and CD3 and its just a case of practice. Ive lost count of the number of maps ive binned after spending many hours working on them only for the final result to really suck.
I just wanted to say I love this map. I printed it out this weekend and used it as inspiration for my own map (first one as well). Your map looks really good on paper!
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Perhaps you could add some more features outside of the town itself? Like hedfes, copses of trees, foelds, etc. It looks a little empty outside the walls.
As for the index: I find it better to not do any line breaks in the labels I add. Doing the index then looks better. You can always go into the labels later and edit them - far harder to edit the index.
What I tend to do is to first put the labels into the map, as I want to have them appear in the index, for example "1 - House of Swords". Then I do the index, and afterwards edit the original labels, for example making the text "1" only.
I really like the shadow effects that CD3 uses. It gives the map a very professional look.
I really like the inclusion of some vegetation in between some of the buildings. It adds a "lived in" kind of atmosphere to the place.
The make up of the pier/dock is very nice.
I have two comments and Ralf already mentioned one. I would definitely add more "stuff" to the area outside of the wall. It looks too empty. I would also add some type of highlight to your labels on the map. The label for King's Road, as an example, is a little hard to read due to it's location and the shadows that are cast on it from the surrounding buildings. I would also break the label for roads to conform to the contour of the road. For example the label "Temple Street" seems a little out of place because it goes into the "hedge"
All in all a very good map.
Your comment on the labels hadn't occurred to me - mind you i'd spent 4 hours staring at the screen and the manual to get the software figured out. I shall make some modifications later and repost.
Regards...
The only thing I thik I would do is to change the shadow on the garden hedges. It is stronger that your buildings and equal to the town walls.
Looks that the on-map text could use some kind of effect to stand out a bit more though.
With the comments on how long it takes to make a city map etc.. Even with CD3 people should realise it's not a instant push button excilent map made I think Roger and any one else playing around with CD3 will atest to that.. Now that CD3 is out I might look at doing that Tutorial or rather finishing it lol.
And just to back Rob up CD3 is not a click and bingo instant map kind of programme. You do need to have a base knowledge of CC3 to truly get the best out of it. Having said that it just takes a little patience and you can quickly produce something usable (see map above). I have a lot to learn with CC3, DD3 and CD3 and its just a case of practice. Ive lost count of the number of maps ive binned after spending many hours working on them only for the final result to really suck.
Ive not seen it printed yet but im getting it done later at the local copy shop onto A3 and laminated. Im glad someone could make use of it.
Regards...