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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2016 edited
     

    Support Notice

    Note that official support for all resources released by the Vintyri Project, like this one, are via email to info@vintyri.org. You are still welcome to use this forum for help from fellow CC3 users, but the Vintyri project does not monitor this forum or provide support here.



    We have released Bogie's Mapping Objects for CC3+. Bogie's art pack now is available free to all CC3+ users. It is licensed for personal and commercial use. You all have Seen the work in recent weeks of LadieStorm. LoopySue and Lorelei using in part Bogie's excellent work. It's now available for your mapping projects too.

    HEADS UP! Almost all faulty installations during beta testing were due to users not paying close attention to the instructions in the installation guide! Save yourself a lot of trouble! Read it and follow the instructions carefully!

    For more information go to:

    http://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/bgindex.htm.

    Original announcement:

    We have a new (free) product on the way that was under non-disclosure wraps until last weekend. Those have been lifted now that open questions over licensing, etc., have been settled. During the non-disclosure period some testers apparently disclosed a bit, because I received 3 queries about it last week from people who should have known nothing.

    It doesn't matter. Secrecy isn't our thing, but we didn't want a public discussion before all lights were green. Here's what's up:

    Bogie is one of the leading creators of third party symbols for Dundjinni. He also is a community leader at the Cartographers Guild and an admin at the Dundjinni forums. Some of our CC3+ beta testers think that Bogie's symbols are the finest quality they've ever seen. If you use the CSUAC, you already have some of his older work, which is included in it.

    For several years, Bogie has been creating and posting nearly 1,300 symbols in Dundjinni format at the addresses listed above and at his own DeviantArt site. Many of his fans (including the Vintyri Project) consider his masterpiece to be the Redthorn Tavern Art Pack, a collection of about 250 symbols that give a cartographer just about anything one might need to make fantastic floor plans for taverns.

    We (the Vintyri Project) have been thinking for some time that it would be great if Bogie's collections were converted for Fractal Mapper 8 and for CC3+, to fully integrate them into both products, and, in the case of CC3+, to make them available in the multiple resolutions with which CC3+ works best.

    I know some users disagree, but we think that CC3+ has come along far enough that it's time for folks to move up. Making two versions is extra work for us. We (the Vintyri Project) have decided not to support CC3 in future products. However, CC3 users still will be able to download the CC3+ packages and import the symbols into CC3, if they choose. The CC3+ catalogs, toolbars, etc., will not work with CC3.

    DD3 and CD3: This is the result of the nature of Bogie's work. For those unfamiliar with it, Dundjinni is not a good tool for making overland or city maps. It does well with battlemaps, dungeon plan areas and village scenes. That's what Bogie maps are, and his symbols are designed mainly for such maps. There's nothing there for pure CC3+ overland maps, but with Mike Schley and Hierwin Link on board in CC3+, that shouldn't be too tragic.

    For a look at Bogie's maps, you can go to his DeviantArt site.

    Our packages will integrate Volumes 1 and 2 into DD3 and Volume 3 into CD3. This does not mean that CC3+ users without DD3 and/or CD3 will be unable to use them, but one will need to load the catalogs manually rather than per toolbar.

    That's about all there is to tell. Those who want to know what's in the EULA can read it at:

    http://www.vintyri.org/downloads/bogie_eula.pdf.

    Mark Oliva
    The Vintyri (TM) Project
    • CommentAuthorwarhound
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2016
     
    Awesome! Thanks to your group and Bogie!
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2016
     
    I've been a fan of Bogie for quite some time. Some of my battlemaps are certainly inspired by Bogie. This is great news!
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2016
     
    Fantastic !
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2016
     
    Great news Mark. There is a lot of great stuff here. I really appreciate your effort in making this happen, and Bogie's skill and willingness to share.
    • CommentAuthorShessar
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2016
     
    Wonderful to hear this. Bogie is a real talent in the photo-realistic style of dungeon mapping art.

    Thanks for your part in this too Mark! It will be a real boon to the CC3 community.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2016
     
    I've received a few E-Mail inquiries asking for more information and also what the Bogie collection "looks like" in CC3+. That's a hard question to answer. My first inclination is to say, "not like much of anything." Volumes 1 and 2 extend the DD3 toolbar to give you access to the various symbols. Once one clicks a symbol, it opens one of Bogie's catalogs in the columns to the left. See the screen shot below. It shows DD3 enhanced with Bogie's toolbar and, to the left, some of the Redthorn Tavern set symbols loaded. The map that's open is the Horn & Stars Tavern WIP posted here a few days ago by S.D. McDaniel alias LadieStorm.

    The toolbar symbols, from left to right, give one these selections:

    1. Artisans' Furnishings
    2. Battlemap Symbols
    3. Containers
    4. Creatures
    5. Dungeon Dressing
    6. Elemental and Magic
    7. Furnishings
    8. Kitchen Furnishings
    9. Tavern Furnishings
    10. Temples and Statues
    11. Up and Down
    12. Wall Features (with cutting symbols)
    13. Weapons
    14. Redthorn Tavern
    15. Bogie: Catalog Toggle

    The last symbol differs from the others in purpose. Over the "Select Symbol Settings" dialog, it lets one choose from all of the above catalogs, like DD3's Skirmish symbol or the Bitmap A and Bitmap B symbols in CD3.

    The good content here, however, is what you don't see ... some 1,200 new DD3 symbols, integrated into CC3+ and DD3, in multiple resolutions and, in my opinion, the highest quality symbols I've ever seen. I have no problems blowing the trumpet like that, because the symbols are Bogie's creations, not mine. As LadieStorm wrote, "I can tell you, I'm blown away by Bogie's symbols!"
      bogie_sample.png
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016
     
    They really are gorgeous aren't they. It was worth the trouble sorting out a screen shot for those of us who don't have DD3 (yet). Thanks Vintyri :)
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016
     
    Posted By: LoopysueIt was worth the trouble sorting out a screen shot for those of us who don't have DD3 (yet). Thanks Vintyri :)


    You'll be able to use the symbols in CC3+ without DD3, but you'll have to open the symbol catalogs manually rather than with the DD3 toolbar.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016
     
    Hmmmn. I can see this adding somewhat to my scale problem - the way I love to try drawing the entire world on a single map? lol

    Its very tempting, though. They are mouth-wateringly pretty :)
    • CommentAuthorVastin
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016
     
    great news i've used most of his tavern stuff for my "Das schwarze Auge" RPG Maptool Maps :)
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016 edited
     
    Posted By: Vastingreat news i've used most of his tavern stuff for my "Das schwarze Auge" RPG Maptool Maps :)


    You'll have it soon for CC3+/DD3 too.

    By the way: "Das schwarze Auge" and not D&D or Pathfinder is the best-selling fantasy RPG in Germany. A new English language version is being made now (for the first time), and it will be called "The Dark Eye."

    The name games there are somewhat interesting. "Das schwarze Auge" translates best as "The Black Eye." However, Germans, when slugged, don't get a black eye but rather a blue eye (das blaue Auge). Thus, "The Dark Eye" gets the meaning over better than the literal translation.

    How good a game is "The Dark Eye" when compared to D&D or Pathfinder? Sorry. I have friends who play it, but I've never played it myself. You'll have to ask Vastin!
    • CommentAuthorLadieStorm
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016
     
    Mark, perhaps I can give a more distinctive answer as to what Bogie's collection 'looks like', since I'm currently using them for this project :). What they look like is a versitle, and in some cases, a more detailed version of what we currently have in the symbol sets for dd3 and the CSUAC.

    But that's just skimming the surface! When mapping dungeons, taverns and inns, you have the versatility of custom designing your maps, but if you need to create something quickly, Bogie also has whole room setups at your disposal. I'm not using those in my Horn & Stars Tavern, 1) because I don't need to in such a 'small' space, and 2) because I'm trying hoping to show a different 'look'. But my Horn & Stars Tavern is the first of three or four maps I intend to make. One of my maps will be a three or four story inn, in which I intend to use a few of his room set ups, to show what you can do.

    It really is an amazing collection! When I first installed them, I swear I spent two hours gawking at them, I was so impressed!
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2016 edited
     
    Posted By: LadieStormMark, perhaps I can give a more distinctive answer as to what Bogie's collection 'looks like', since I'm currently using them for this project :). What they look like is a versatile, and in some cases, a more detailed version of what we currently have in the symbol sets for dd3 and the CSUAC.


    Bogie's work and the CSUAC all come from the Dundjinni community. But let's remember that when Cecil Solomon* put together the CSUAC, he was working with early generation material from Bogie and other Dundjinni users. As one would expect, most of the people who produced the CSUAC content became more skilled with time. Bogie certainly was one of them.

    Another difference is that the CSUAC gives you its symbols only in a single resolution which sometimes produces slightly inferior results. Unfortunately, none of us has been able to gain a license to make a genuine CC3+ version of the CSUAC, although every effort has been made by several people to do so.

    The Bogie beta collection is, on the other hand, a full-fledged CC3+ conversion with, among other things, multi-resolution versions of the symbols. The DD3 collection includes CC3+ cutting symbols, as already discussed here. The CD3 version (which I still am working on) has CD3 shadow maps, street alignment, demographic coloring, etc.

    But my Horn & Stars Tavern is the first of three or four maps I intend to make. One of my maps will be a three or four story inn, in which I intend to use a few of his room set ups, to show what you can do.


    And I'm looking forward to seeing them as much as other people are looking forward to getting what you already have on beta level.

    It really is an amazing collection! When I first installed them, I swear I spent two hours gawking at them, I was so impressed!


    That quote stands on its own.

    * CSUAC = Cecil Solomon's User Art Collection.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2016 edited
     
    The beta version of Bogie's Mapping Objects, Volume 3, for CC3+ and City Designer 3, is ready for beta testing. The download link will go out to Vintyri and ProFantasy beta testers today and tomorrow (Monday).

    As of tomorrow, I'll be working on the final Volume, No. 4, with Bogie's collection of fill styles. It should be in beta testing before the week is done. Volume 4 is the last in this series..
    • CommentAuthorLadieStorm
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2016
     
    Downloaded and installed :D, that will be the last map I do, as time permits.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2016
     
    Release target: July 18 (see above)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2016
     
    Hurrah !
    • CommentAuthorVastin
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2016
     
    great news!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2016
     
    Its going to knock your socks of... and probably blow your mind away! LOL
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2016
     
    Bogie's Mapping Objects now is available to all users. See the 1st posting in this thread.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2016
     
    Downloading.
    • CommentAuthormattekure
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2016 edited
     
    I downloaded and installed the windows installer and it and I appear to have a bunch of missing files. The install process completes without issue, but when I create a new dungeon map and try to use some of the Bogies art work, I get a lot of red X's for artwork. Not all of them, but quite a few. I dug through and there were no files in the Symbols->Bogies Map Objects that correspond to the Red X files. Is it possible I got a corrupted download?

    I made a simple album showing the files that are missing from my install.

    http://imgur.com/a/dqPtl

    Edit, forgot to add the link to the album
    Edit 2 - for clarity.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    That doesn't really help. What would help is information of a screen shot that shows where you installed. What you've written above suggests at least that the files are in the wrong location.
    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016 edited
     
    Hi,

    I have the same problem. Strangely some files are working and some are missing. I hope the provided screenshots are helpful.
      Bogies_Map_Objects_Battlemaps_Folder.png
      Bogies_Map_Objects_Battlemaps_Folder_and_Menu.png
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    I'm surprised you can do anything at all with the ZIP file. I just downloaded it again, and I can't. I get only a CRC error. The file apparently has become corrupt or degenerated on the German Telekom server that hosts our website. I've taken the file down, to prevent more bad downloads, and I'm uploading it anew. I'll test it after that and inform you when its available again in proper form.
    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    Thank you!
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    I've uploaded, downloaded and tested, and this file appears to do what it's supposed to do again.

    However, there are other files on the Vintyri site that are missing or corrupt. Therefore, I'd suggest against downloading other things until tomorrow. I'll be going through check sums today and fixing what's gone bad. German Telekom says this is the result of system problems late Sunday night and early Monday morning.

    If anyone has problems with the rebuild, let me know. The LINUX-Mac version also is unavailable at the moment, but it will be back later this afternoon (European time). When I checked it it also produced only a CRC error.

    Sorry for the problems. This is getting irritating. It's the 7th time this year that something like this has happened!
    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    Worked like a charm :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    I didn't get an error on the original zip file, but I did see red Xs after I ran the install program. I'm downloading the fixed file. Note that I'm using Win 8.1s Windows unzip ability, not one of the programs like WinZIP.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2016
     
    I have to browse to the symbol fsc files and load them that way. Click on the custom toolbar icon and selecting a symbol type doesn't load the symbols into the symbol area on the left hand side of CC3Plus.

    After more testing, I remembered I hadn't installed the CSUAC symbols in CC3+ yet. The Bogie symbols show up fine.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Sorry, Jim, I'm getting confused.

    Posted By: JimPI have to browse to the symbol fsc files and load them that way. Click on the custom toolbar icon and selecting a symbol type doesn't load the symbols into the symbol area on the left hand side of CC3Plus.


    Are you having this problem with the Bogie symbols? What you wrote above suggests that the problems are with everything. The following sentence suggests that this is not the case.

    The Bogie symbols show up fine.


    And then ...

    After more testing, I remembered I hadn't installed the CSUAC symbols in CC3+ yet.


    Did the CSUAC toolbar icons show up even though you hadn't installed the CSUAC. If so, something isn't working right, and I'd like to track it down.

    As to your first posting, I don't know exactly how the files were corrupted internally. Some people could unzip the zip file and run setup. Others, including me yesterday, got a CRC error message from the zip file. We never used this installer program to create setup files before. Apparently it ignores bad content in its own packed file and installs what it can, ignoring the rest but throwing up no error messages. Several people told me that they installed without problems but had (always the same) PNG files missing. I couldn't duplicate that because I couldn't unzip the download file.

    This problem will affect anyone who downloaded between 11 p.m. Sunday and 10 a.m. yesterday (Wednesday) European time. Those time are an hour later than in London and six hours later than in New York. The problem at the host affected seven download files on our website, but only three of them were CC3+-relevant.
    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    Hi,

    I can confirm that I got the toolbar icons both for CSUAC and Vintyri Collection without having those installed. I took it as incentive to do so and after copying the extracted images it worked without problem. As I downloaded the CSUAC and Vintyri Collection after the first install (with the corrupted file), I cannot if the "problem" persists with the corrected installation file.
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Posted By: silikoneiI can confirm that I got the toolbar icons both for CSUAC and Vintyri Collection without having those installed.


    In which toolbars did they appear?

    Overland toolbar??
    Dungeon Designer 3 toolbar?
    City Designer 3 toolbar?

    Did this happen after installing with the Setup program or by unzipping files into the CC3Plus folder?

    I cannot if the "problem" persists with the corrected installation file.


    I'm sorry, but I don't understand this sentence. You cannot do what if the problem persists?
    • CommentAuthormattekure
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    I also got the CSUAC and Vintyri collection icons before installing them too, but I thought it was a feature. they both worked perfectly after installing the collections. The CSUAC icons appear on all 3 menus.
    Here are how the menus appeared for me
    Overland Toolbar


    Dungeon Designer 3 Toolbar


    City Designer 3 toolbar

    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    Posted By: Vintyrim sorry, but I don't understand this sentence. You cannot do what if the problem persists?


    Hi sorry. It was to early to think :). I try to describe it more clearly:

    1) After installing the first time via the installer with the corrupted file I got the menu icons exactly like mattekure (without any function behind the CSUAC and Vintyri menu icons)
    2) Before trying the corrected file I extracted the CSUAC and Vintyri files and now the menu icons worked perfectly
    3) Now after installing the new version of Bogie's Symbols (with the installer and the CSUAC and Vintyri files already extracted) everything works. I dont know what the "new" installer does, if the CSUAC and Vintyri files are not installed.

    Besides: Great work and thanks for your effort.

    Cheers :-)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Posted By: mattekureI also got the CSUAC and Vintyri collection icons before installing them too, but I thought it was a feature. they both worked perfectly after installing the collections. The CSUAC icons appear on all 3 menus.
    Here are how the menus appeared for me
    Overland Toolbar


    Dungeon Designer 3 Toolbar


    City Designer 3 toolbar



    Mark, the above is what I saw in my CC3+ installation, without CSUAC being installed. The toolbars were there, but I hadn't installed CSUAC yet.

    Wednesday night I installed all of CSUAC and the menus showed me the sybols in the symbol part of CC3+ on the left side of the mapping area.

    Before I realized I hadn't installed CSUAC in CC3+, I had exited CC3+, loaded it, no symbols. Then I tried all toolbar icons for CSUAC, nothing. I then browsed to the Symbol folders, and realized I hadn't installed CSUAC at all under CC3+ as the folders weren't there.

    I just checked all of them... and noticed under CD3, in CC3+, that I don't seem to have installed all of them. Midieval Copper Roof Parts Catalogue, and Midieval Miscellanious Objects Catalog aren't there. If someone could let me know what file those are in, I would appreciate it. I'm sure this lack is all my fault.

    No CRC error, I saw those back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. So I know what they look like.

    No error messages upon installing any of this. I had already tried the first corrupted file, no error messages at any time, but I did notice red Xs. The Bogie symbols all worked fine after I downloaded the corrected file you posted this week.

    I've re-read the above several times. Added/corrected my text, I hope its not confusing. If it is, please let me know. I try to be articulate, but I do fail at it.
    • CommentAuthormattekure
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    The roof catalogs are all part of the excellent Vintyri Cartographic Collection here: http://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/vccindex_cc.htm

    So from their site, you can now get 3 different but all excellent catalogs, the Vintyri Collection, the CSUAC and now the Bogie collection. the installer for the bogie collection seems to make the toolbar so all 3 are available but with different buttons depending on whether you are in the overland, city or dungeon view.


    Mark, the above is what I saw in my CC3+ installation, without CSUAC being installed. The toolbars were there, but I hadn't installed CSUAC yet.

    Wednesday night I installed all of CSUAC and the menus showed me the sybols in the symbol part of CC3+ on the left side of the mapping area.

    Before I realized I hadn't installed CSUAC in CC3+, I had exited CC3+, loaded it, no symbols. Then I tried all toolbar icons for CSUAC, nothing. I then browsed to the Symbol folders, and realized I hadn't installed CSUAC at all under CC3+ as the folders weren't there.

    I just checked all of them... and noticed under CD3, in CC3+, that I don't seem to have installed all of them. Midieval Copper Roof Parts Catalogue, and Midieval Miscellanious Objects Catalog aren't there. If someone could let me know what file those are in, I would appreciate it. I'm sure this lack is all my fault.

    No CRC error, I saw those back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. So I know what they look like.

    No error messages upon installing any of this. I had already tried the first corrupted file, no error messages at any time, but I did notice red Xs. The Bogie symbols all worked fine after I downloaded the corrected file you posted this week.

    I've re-read the above several times. Added/corrected my text, I hope its not confusing. If it is, please let me know. I try to be articulate, but I do fail at it.
    • CommentAuthorLadieStorm
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    Well, it seems I messed up again! I'd been so busy working on my city map I never got around to installing Bogie's final release. So, since I'm taking a break ATM, I decided to go ahead and install it( I was still under the last beta).

    As far as I can tell, I followed.the directions exactly. I backed up the 4 necessary files (they are currently in my tutorials folder), then erased the .imn as directed. My cc3+ is in the default location, so I didn't need to worry about that.

    I installed the Bogies.setup.exe(running as admin), and followed through step hey step.

    The DOS file said something about the menu config.exe not recognized?

    I've lost my custom toolbars, and the background for my symbols and my main window is black. I also, once again, have the CA3 icon, even though I don't own it.

    Ive closed and reopened cc3+ 4 times after clicking on the hammer and setting up the custom toolbar. This is probably an easy.fix... I just need to know what that is. :)
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Hmmm. You've given me a lot of information, but some of the key points are missing.

    So ... first point:

    1. Close CC3+

    2. Open the Windows File Explorer and goo to your (Data Folders)\ProFantasy\CC3Plus folder. This is NOT C:\Program Files (x86)\ProFantasy\CC3Plus !

    3. See if a file name VPToolbarFix.bat is there. If it is, make a double click on the file's symbol are run it. If it isn't, you didn't install correctly.

    See if that fixes anything.

    I don't know what's wrong with your installation because I have too little information. If this doesn't fix things, then I suspect that things are installed in the wrong place. This installation is working (verified) on a lot of PCs, so something is wrong on your machine, but before I can help you fix it, I need to know what's wrong. If you still have problems after th3e above, let me know.

    But I also remember for tonight that here in Germany it's slowly getting to be sleepy time down south (in Bavaria).
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    To everyone who gotten too many toolbar icons:

    In the end, this toolbar build worked for all beta testers. However, there's a worm in this apple that's beyond our reach. In the beta test phase, it caused a lot of people a lot of problems. It's a file from ProFantasy named CC3MenuConfig.exe. This file has caused quite a number of problems, but it also is necessary to build toolbars and menus.

    We've had a lot of discussions and so have some of our beta testers in the past week about this troublesome utility. I've been spending a lot of time today trying to duplicate your experiences without success. Before I can move on, I really need to know if those of you who who had the CSUAC and Vintyri icons installed without theose apps being installed:

    -- installed with the setup program

    --or installed with the ZIP alternative that unzips all of the files into the CC3Plus data level.
    • CommentAuthorLadieStorm
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Well, I have the vptoolbarfix.bat, and I tried to run it,. I think I did...it opened for a split second, then closed. I even tried running as admin....it didn't change anything.
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    Hey, why do my toolbars for the CSUAC look different than Jims?
      Capture7.PNG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016
     
    That's a real weird looking set up, Lorelei, if you don't mind me butting in here.

    You don't seem to have any of the new icons, but I thought we'd all had them for some time now.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    Posted By: LoreleiHey, why do my toolbars for the CSUAC look different than Jims?
      Capture7.PNG


    I quoted someone else, thats not a screenshot of my icons.

    Your screenshot doesn't look like you have 'custom icon bar 3' on. You can find it by clicking on the hammer, next to the Grid button.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2016 edited
     
    Here are mine. First one is with Overland selected, second is with Dungeon Designer selected, and third one is with City Designer selected. This is all in CC3Plus.
      cc3Plus_selected.png
      dd3_selected.png
      cd3_selected.png
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2016 edited
     
    Sorry, folks. You're victims of the time difference between Europe and the U.S.A. Sooner or later I go and get my good night's sleep, and when I do that, your waking day still has a number of hours left in it.

    I'm going to handle the problems that LadieStorm and Lorelei mentioned by E-Mail, because they aren't general forum issues. Both were betatesters and their problems are different from those of regular users.

    For those who have been looking at the pictures above, Lorelei has different icons because her installation still is at an early beta stage before the toolbar update was finished.

    On the "too many toolbars" issue also discussed above: I can't do anything more until I get an answer to the questions that I posed in Post #44 above.
    • CommentAuthorLadieStorm
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2016
     
    Thanks Mark.
    • CommentAuthorsilikonei
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2016
     
    ....
    Before I can move on, I really need to know if those of you who who had the CSUAC and Vintyri icons installed without theose apps being installed:

    -- installed with the setup program

    --or installed with the ZIP alternative that unzips all of the files into the CC3Plus data level.


    I used the setup program
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      CommentAuthorVintyri
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2016
     
    Posted By: silikoneiI used the setup program


    If I recall correctly, you since also have installed the CSUAC and the Vintyri Collection.