Bogie's Mapping Objects for CC3+ Released (Free)
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Download page is now here.
Please make sure to visit the FAQ page if you have any issues.
Use these links instead of those in the text below. You may also need to use these links if direct links to files mentioned in the install guides don't work.
We have released Bogie's Mapping Objects for CC3+. Bogie's art pack now is available free to all CC3+ users. It is licensed for personal and commercial use. You all have Seen the work in recent weeks of LadieStorm. LoopySue and Lorelei using in part Bogie's excellent work. It's now available for your mapping projects too.
HEADS UP! Almost all faulty installations during beta testing were due to users not paying close attention to the instructions in the installation guide! Save yourself a lot of trouble! Read it and follow the instructions carefully!
For more information go to:
http://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/bgindex.htm.
Original announcement:
We have a new (free) product on the way that was under non-disclosure wraps until last weekend. Those have been lifted now that open questions over licensing, etc., have been settled. During the non-disclosure period some testers apparently disclosed a bit, because I received 3 queries about it last week from people who should have known nothing.
It doesn't matter. Secrecy isn't our thing, but we didn't want a public discussion before all lights were green. Here's what's up:
Bogie is one of the leading creators of third party symbols for Dundjinni. He also is a community leader at the Cartographers Guild and an admin at the Dundjinni forums. Some of our CC3+ beta testers think that Bogie's symbols are the finest quality they've ever seen. If you use the CSUAC, you already have some of his older work, which is included in it.
For several years, Bogie has been creating and posting nearly 1,300 symbols in Dundjinni format at the addresses listed above and at his own DeviantArt site. Many of his fans (including the Vintyri Project) consider his masterpiece to be the Redthorn Tavern Art Pack, a collection of about 250 symbols that give a cartographer just about anything one might need to make fantastic floor plans for taverns.
We (the Vintyri Project) have been thinking for some time that it would be great if Bogie's collections were converted for Fractal Mapper 8 and for CC3+, to fully integrate them into both products, and, in the case of CC3+, to make them available in the multiple resolutions with which CC3+ works best.
I know some users disagree, but we think that CC3+ has come along far enough that it's time for folks to move up. Making two versions is extra work for us. We (the Vintyri Project) have decided not to support CC3 in future products. However, CC3 users still will be able to download the CC3+ packages and import the symbols into CC3, if they choose. The CC3+ catalogs, toolbars, etc., will not work with CC3.
DD3 and CD3: This is the result of the nature of Bogie's work. For those unfamiliar with it, Dundjinni is not a good tool for making overland or city maps. It does well with battlemaps, dungeon plan areas and village scenes. That's what Bogie maps are, and his symbols are designed mainly for such maps. There's nothing there for pure CC3+ overland maps, but with Mike Schley and Hierwin Link on board in CC3+, that shouldn't be too tragic.
For a look at Bogie's maps, you can go to his DeviantArt site.
Our packages will integrate Volumes 1 and 2 into DD3 and Volume 3 into CD3. This does not mean that CC3+ users without DD3 and/or CD3 will be unable to use them, but one will need to load the catalogs manually rather than per toolbar.
That's about all there is to tell. Those who want to know what's in the EULA can read it at:
http://www.vintyri.org/downloads/bogie_eula.pdf.
Mark Oliva
The Vintyri (TM) Project
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Thanks for your part in this too Mark! It will be a real boon to the CC3 community.
The toolbar symbols, from left to right, give one these selections:
1. Artisans' Furnishings
2. Battlemap Symbols
3. Containers
4. Creatures
5. Dungeon Dressing
6. Elemental and Magic
7. Furnishings
8. Kitchen Furnishings
9. Tavern Furnishings
10. Temples and Statues
11. Up and Down
12. Wall Features (with cutting symbols)
13. Weapons
14. Redthorn Tavern
15. Bogie: Catalog Toggle
The last symbol differs from the others in purpose. Over the "Select Symbol Settings" dialog, it lets one choose from all of the above catalogs, like DD3's Skirmish symbol or the Bitmap A and Bitmap B symbols in CD3.
The good content here, however, is what you don't see ... some 1,200 new DD3 symbols, integrated into CC3+ and DD3, in multiple resolutions and, in my opinion, the highest quality symbols I've ever seen. I have no problems blowing the trumpet like that, because the symbols are Bogie's creations, not mine. As LadieStorm wrote, "I can tell you, I'm blown away by Bogie's symbols!"
Its very tempting, though. They are mouth-wateringly pretty
By the way: "Das schwarze Auge" and not D&D or Pathfinder is the best-selling fantasy RPG in Germany. A new English language version is being made now (for the first time), and it will be called "The Dark Eye."
The name games there are somewhat interesting. "Das schwarze Auge" translates best as "The Black Eye." However, Germans, when slugged, don't get a black eye but rather a blue eye (das blaue Auge). Thus, "The Dark Eye" gets the meaning over better than the literal translation.
How good a game is "The Dark Eye" when compared to D&D or Pathfinder? Sorry. I have friends who play it, but I've never played it myself. You'll have to ask Vastin!
But that's just skimming the surface! When mapping dungeons, taverns and inns, you have the versatility of custom designing your maps, but if you need to create something quickly, Bogie also has whole room setups at your disposal. I'm not using those in my Horn & Stars Tavern, 1) because I don't need to in such a 'small' space, and 2) because I'm trying hoping to show a different 'look'. But my Horn & Stars Tavern is the first of three or four maps I intend to make. One of my maps will be a three or four story inn, in which I intend to use a few of his room set ups, to show what you can do.
It really is an amazing collection! When I first installed them, I swear I spent two hours gawking at them, I was so impressed!
Another difference is that the CSUAC gives you its symbols only in a single resolution which sometimes produces slightly inferior results. Unfortunately, none of us has been able to gain a license to make a genuine CC3+ version of the CSUAC, although every effort has been made by several people to do so.
The Bogie beta collection is, on the other hand, a full-fledged CC3+ conversion with, among other things, multi-resolution versions of the symbols. The DD3 collection includes CC3+ cutting symbols, as already discussed here. The CD3 version (which I still am working on) has CD3 shadow maps, street alignment, demographic coloring, etc. And I'm looking forward to seeing them as much as other people are looking forward to getting what you already have on beta level. That quote stands on its own.
* CSUAC = Cecil Solomon's User Art Collection.
As of tomorrow, I'll be working on the final Volume, No. 4, with Bogie's collection of fill styles. It should be in beta testing before the week is done. Volume 4 is the last in this series..
I made a simple album showing the files that are missing from my install.
http://imgur.com/a/dqPtl
Edit, forgot to add the link to the album
Edit 2 - for clarity.
I have the same problem. Strangely some files are working and some are missing. I hope the provided screenshots are helpful.
However, there are other files on the Vintyri site that are missing or corrupt. Therefore, I'd suggest against downloading other things until tomorrow. I'll be going through check sums today and fixing what's gone bad. German Telekom says this is the result of system problems late Sunday night and early Monday morning.
If anyone has problems with the rebuild, let me know. The LINUX-Mac version also is unavailable at the moment, but it will be back later this afternoon (European time). When I checked it it also produced only a CRC error.
Sorry for the problems. This is getting irritating. It's the 7th time this year that something like this has happened!
After more testing, I remembered I hadn't installed the CSUAC symbols in CC3+ yet. The Bogie symbols show up fine.