Why Layers and Sheets? Help with Layer Presentation Order pls
I am about at my wits end with this software!
Whats the point of Layers and Sheets? How do I change the layer order? I used to use CC2 a long time ago. I am trying to recreate one of my old maps, and here is what my problem is:
I recreated all the coastline and rivers. I placed in the towns. When I draw a forest, it is placed on top of the rivers and the towns. I played with the sheets order and got the rivers to place on top of the forest, but not the towns. Ive read the manual, but I might be reading the wrong part. I even bought the Tome of Ultimate Mapping, but I cant figure this out. Why is there a place for sheets and a "move up" "move down", but not for layers? Are the Layers always presented in a specific order?
I realize Sheets are primarily for effects, which I do not really want to use. How do I change the order that layers display? Can this be done?
Whats the point of Layers and Sheets? How do I change the layer order? I used to use CC2 a long time ago. I am trying to recreate one of my old maps, and here is what my problem is:
I recreated all the coastline and rivers. I placed in the towns. When I draw a forest, it is placed on top of the rivers and the towns. I played with the sheets order and got the rivers to place on top of the forest, but not the towns. Ive read the manual, but I might be reading the wrong part. I even bought the Tome of Ultimate Mapping, but I cant figure this out. Why is there a place for sheets and a "move up" "move down", but not for layers? Are the Layers always presented in a specific order?
I realize Sheets are primarily for effects, which I do not really want to use. How do I change the order that layers display? Can this be done?
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Layers are used for logical grouping, for example you can create a GM Only layer, and when you hide that layer, all entities on it are hidden (But you would still place those entities ont he relevant sheets to control appearance order in the drawing).
And since layers doesn't affect ordering, reordering them isn't really a thing, which is why there aren't any move up/down buttons in the layers dialog. The layers dialog simply display them alphabetically.
Sheets are used both for effects and ordering.
There is nothing physically 'on' the layers, which is why their order is irrelevant and shown as alphabetical. Layers are like a way of grouping things for visibility and freezing, but lets get back to the sheets which are about ten times more important than the layers.
If you want to move things up and down move the sheets up and down. Remember, though, that the sheets are listed in the order that they are drawn. So the BACKGROUND sheet is at the top of the list because it is the first thing drawn, and the FRAME and MAP BORDER sheets are at the bottom of the list because they are the last things drawn.
I'm a little confused by your wish to place the rivers on top of the trees, but maybe you are using a forest fill rather than actual tree symbols? Would you be able to show us a screen shot of what you mean?
EDIT: Oh I am SO slow these days! Ninjad by Remy again
What I want to do i create a sheet for lairs/ruins that I can hide while printing, and print on the DMs master map. how do i make the items i draw appear only on that sheet?
As for putting things on a specific sheet, you can always use Change Properties after placing them, and change their sheet.
A bit more advanced is to take advantage of sheet naming. Most symbols goes to a sheet that starts with SYMBOLS, so if you make a sheet called SYMBOLS GM and make it the active sheet before placing symbols, they will go there. You'll have to remember to NOT have it the active sheet when you place normal symbols however.