Community Atlas and Challenge - Sir Lionel Poncegraf's Manor house
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Here is the very beginning of my entry into the challenge for June. It is the ground floor plan of Sir Lionel Poncegraf's Manor house, on Fisher Island in the Forlorn Archipelago, in the Basher Bay region. It will be done mainly in the Naomi vanDoren Style (CA113, Annual 10, 2016) - spelled incorrectly as Noami in the Symbols Dungeon Folder, in case someone gets confused.
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Can see the competition is going to be quite fierce!
Hope to finish in time for the competition - would be lovely if Remy could give us an extra week.
Also perhaps a well or two in the courtyard??
and it looks like the only way for horses to get to the road is through the kitchen?? :-)
and maybe stairs leading down into the cellar where items needing cool temps, meats and ale might be stored?
I did forget the stairs to the cellar though - thanks for that. And also the well. Good thinking, 99!
I'm just sort of explaining why to me it looks all wrong
Other than that - a really great map
And on consideration, the Great Hall floor with the mixture of tile and carpet seems a little much, unless of course Sir Lionel is a fop and is trying to impress his neighbors!! :-)
"Sir Lionel comes from a fairly newly established landed family, with his grandfather being granted this manorial fief by the Duke of Basher City. He is a pompous but good-natured man, and genuinely cares about the amount of money his fief makes, the luxuries he can extort from his ungrateful peasants, and the number of women he can seduce, despite being married to a distant kinswoman of the reigning Duke of Basher City.
Needless to say, the gallows sees a lot of use, and the ‘natives are restless’."
Just the type of person we all aim to be - hehehe
I need ideas for the back courtyard, apart from tracks which I will do next.
The surrounds outside the lawn area are still to come. But ideas and critique please. Jerry already drew my attention to some oversights. (stairs and a well)
Just because there are stairs to the upper floor in the entrance, doesn't mean there has to be a solid wall between the entrance and the Great Hall. You could just have a transverse balcony linking the single storey rooms of either wing at the top of those stairs, supported by a double row of Corinthian columns, through which the two storey Great Hall is visible from the two storey entrance?
Its a little untidy as designs go, but it would make more sense of the access to the Great Hall - also make the Great Hall more impressive.
The 1st Floor will have the whole of the floor space - the Great Hall will only be 1 storey. Sir Lionel wanted a ballroom on the 1st storey, and his father-in-law refused to cough up more dosh to make it a three storey manor house. Ungrateful man - he should have been eternally grateful Sir Lionel took his daughter off his hands, and into his oh so loving one's.
Freshly aware that I can't actually see any of the smaller detail, I might suggest that a house that size would have a much larger vegetable plot - be more or less self sufficient as far as carrots and beans and peas go? Also, where is the shi… the mucking out pile? There would be tons of 'farmyard manure' up for grabs - a precious commodity in a time and place where there aren't any artificial chemical fertilizers?
I might also make quite a lot of room for a pen of small livestock - ducks, geese, poultry... a pig pen? Easier to just nip out the back door and grab the raw materials for a nice suckling pig - and of course the obligatory apple tree. Can't have suckling pig without an apple in its jaws! there would have to be a sort of discrete outhouse as far from the main building as possible for the slaughtering and basic butchering. A tool shed (on a mansion scale). A cart park? (and I'm not talking about shopping trolleys!), or a coach house? I assume that even the rotten chauvinist pig would be obliged to keep at least one half decent coach to keep up appearances. Its always easier to pick up new victi… guests if you've got a nice fancy coach - headless/vampire driver optional....
I think you might wish you'd made the yard a bit bigger! LOL!
I told you I try not to make comments about other people's governments - but I can certainly laugh at the things you say! LOL!
the second floor will have a ballroom in addition to seperate Lady and Lord wings; the cellars will not only contain kitchen and wine storage, but a separate area for Sir Lionel to both entertain the ladies, and question those ladies' husbands.
The first map is with roof on, the second where a mighty wind has blown it off!
Great finish!
Very open to suggestions for the floor above, in addition (instead of even) to the comments I made above. Make this villian YOUR villain. Be part of his sadistic ways. BTW, he is blonde, and has a funny way of moving his lips. MAKE PONCEGRAF GREAT AGAIN, folks, we can do it!!
Is there a stair down to the cellars in the kitchen area? The Pantry seems small to hold all the foodstuffs that the LORD would want on his table?
Wouldn't all the gold (at least gilded) plate and crystal (ok, the coke bottles) be stored in the Butler's Pantry and if so, would there really be a door into the foyer? Perhaps a wall across the northern part bedtween the two doors with a lockable door into the pantry itself? And shouldn't the coat of arms include a "Bigly" P in the Heraldry?
No carriage house?? I can't see P riding on his paltrey to his neighbors in the rain or snow.
(you may have to increase the size of the manor house to fit in all the good stuff!! :-)
And what a low act to put his barber in the firing (flogging) line! Really, Jerry.
I don't see the stairs or the latrine well for that matter.
What is the weather like for the manor? if that is the well I see north of the kitchen buttery, it must be really cold to try to get water from it during the winter.
And with what I see of our very own "P" doing at the Nato Summit this morning, I am wishing his barber would practice his surgery skills and cut his throat. God he is a despicable little baby who can only scream ME! ME! ME!
Cant find where Sir Lionel Poncegraf sleeps.
If he isnt sleeping with the servants.
Here is what I hope will be the final version of the ground floor.
But i just felt like i had to mention it
Its an amazing map.
When its done, please post it without the grid so we can enjoy all the details more.