Two fast questions...

1st question : i already created my map. It is a couloured one...is possibile to convert it to a black and white one, without having to start a new map?

2nd question : i ve the CC3 base program. Is possible create a dungeon, a very simple one by CC3, without the dungeon designer add on?

Thank you!

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  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    Hey Irishman :)

    1. the only way I know how to turn a colour map into a black and white one is after you have rendered the image from it - by using a paint program to totally desaturate it.

    2. I drew a dungeon style map (search for "Merelan Observatory") before I had DD3, and although I wouldn't say it was exactly a waste of time, it certainly took about 5 times longer than it would to do it all over again in DD3, now that I have that add-on.
  • 2) Amazing!! But the topic title tells CC3+ dungeon designer....
    I shold create an underground dungeon...a long digged gallery, with 8 small rooms and 2 BIG...the look outside rooms could be a simple black...

    1) using photoshop or similar, you mean...

    Tx Loopysue...nice n kind as always... :)
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    edited November 2016
    2. Ummm... not getting you on that "CC3+ dungeon designer" reference? Walls are better done as lines with appropriate width settings if you really want to use CC3+ without DD3, and doors and windows might be a bit hard to come by unless you can find the symbols in the CSUAC? I really can't remember where mine came from, but the Observatory was done back in the day when I was using CSUAC, so its a fairly safe bet that there are some in there. Its just that they don't cut the wall like DD3 ones do, so you have to remember to leave a gap in your wall where you want one ;)

    1. Yes - exactly that. I have a convenient function button in Corel Photopaint that completely desaturates any image in the blink of an eye, but if you are drawing in colour best do a couple of tests to see if what the end result might look like. Contrast between red and green things, for example, tends to completely disappear when the image is reduced to greyscale.

    You're welcome :)
  • Sue: Your #2 point is from the topic title - "Merelan Observatory - Using the CC3+ Dungeon template", I think.
  • MonsenMonsen Administrator 🖼️ 81 images Cartographer
    edited November 2016
    Note that for 1, CC3(+) has the RGB Matrix Process effect which can easily be applied to the whole map to make it black and white without having to use an external program.

    But to add a little to that answer, yes, it is easy to simply convert the image to black and white, but that does not give you the look of a map that was designed with a black and white map style. For that, you can change the style of a map, but it is a lot of work, as it is not a fully automated process.

    As for 2, CC3(+) does have a simple dungeon style built in, just select Dungeon map type from the new map wizard. It is limited in fill styles and symbols, but it does the basics.
  • I used cc2 for many many years and designed dungeons with it. But it is a lot of work.

    I recently bought the mapping package and DD3 looks amazing to use and simple. With CC2 I created my own bmp's and added them to the map and filled in addition stuff however I could.

    With DD3 you plop down rooms and add in corridors and manipulate them to suit.

    Maybe see if you can find a copy of the DD3 essentials handbook to see some of the stuff it's capable of and how it may make your life easier.
  • LoopysueLoopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 40 images Cartographer
    Posted By: WyvernSue: Your #2 point is from the topic title - "Merelan Observatory - Using the CC3+ Dungeon template", I think.
    Oh yes! sorry Irishman! I remember now. There's a dungeon template in CC3+ that you can use to get started on the map. I didn't actually have DD3 back then, so I know its in the CC3+ collection of templates.
    Posted By: MonsenNote that for 1, CC3(+) has the RGB Matrix Process effect which can easily be applied to the whole map to make it black and white without having to use an external program.
    The RGB Matrix Process effect! Of course - a much better solution. I'd go with that one. There's even a preset for grey if I remember correctly :)
  • Tx to all for you suggestions....

    I'll try the converion of the map...i'll try the CC3 RGB MP...

    then i'll start with the dungeon!!
  • Irfanview, which is free, can convert and save a map as B&W... I have had mixed results with it.
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