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    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2020 edited
     

    I was tasked by my brother with creating maps to be used in conjunction with the classic D&D module, I1 Dwellers of the Forbidden CityLuckily I didn't have to do all of the maps, just a few. 

    These maps were done using the "Dungeon SS2A" style and I did my best to stick with those symbol sets as much as possible, unless there was something I absolutely needed from somewhere else.  I kept them as simple as possible, knowing that they would be used later in an online tabletop adventure.  The GM would then add his own tokens and characters.  First I used the original module map as an import, then placed it on the bottom-most sheet. 
    I welcome any ideas, questions or criticism.  I am a novice at this art, and have much to learn.


    Map A North.FCW
    Map A South.FCW
    Map C South.FCW
    Map H.FCW

    Map A - North Portion (300ft.x300ft.)



    Map A North - Bridge



    Map A North - Blacksmith



    Map A - South Portion



    Map A - South - Pool



    Map A - South - Rooms 4-5



    Map A South - Room 6



    Map C - South



    Map C - 1-2



    Map C - Room 4



    Map C - Room 5



    Map C - Room 6



    Map H (180x180 feet)
    High Resolution Image


    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2020
     
    These are great maps, arcwynd :)

    I don't believe you're really a novice ;)
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2020
     
    Thank you, Loopysue! I guess over the past year, I've just invested too much time with it (is that possible). I keep going on buying sprees for the annuals and want to try out new maps for each. I am an old D&D gamer geek and revitalizing classic modules is quite fun.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2020
     
    Very nice maps.

    That floor in map C looks a bit repetitive though, map would have looked even nicer if you had broken up the tiling a bit here, otherwise a very nice set of maps.
  1.  
    The "house" in map H doesn't seem to have any windows (only doors) and no internal light sources. While these maps may come from D&D sources that doesn't mean you can't add rational improvements.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2020
     
    Thank you, Monsen. I see what you mean. I'm going to have to explore some of the floor textures and how to blend them effectively.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2020
     
    Thank you, DaltonSpence. The doors are there, but not very visible, I think, because there are no handles on them. That is a relatively quick fix. I shall do so now!
    By the way, if anyone would like the FCWs I'm happy to post them.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2020
     
    Oh, that outside walkway is an outdoor patio. I might need some symbols there to indicate that.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2020
     
    OK, Map H has been reworked a bit. Added lighting inside and outside. Fixed shading problem (some walls had "wall shadow" instead of "wall shadow, directional"). Tried to make the outside porch more recognizable by adding a tree hanging over it and some pots and plants.
  2.  
    A few more suggestions:
    • To make your doors more visible I think the inside doors should be open (into rooms, not halls) and the outside ones reinforced (which actually makes sense from a security angle).
    • I wouldn't give the bedroom an outside door or one to a storeroom myself but if your story requires it …
    • Also I think every room/hall with an outside wall should have a window for daytime lighting as well as a light source for nights. (The fact this is a walled compound should make this safe.)
    • The room with the carpet doesn't seem accessible; is there a secret door I'm not seeing?
    • The kitchen (that's the tiled room, right?) doesn't seem to have the appropriate furnishings. This would include a chimney for a stove/hearth.
    • This seems to be a one floor structure. If you want to add floors remember to add staircases too. (The other floors could extend over/under the walkway.)
    • Is one of those outside structures an outhouse? ;)
    • Finally, yes I would like to see the FCW files.
    I hope this helps.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2020 edited
     
    I sincerely appreciate it, DaltonSpence! This is advice I should use on all my building maps.
    This is the description of the room that looks like a kitchen: "Unless previously alerted. Horan will be found in this chamber. He will attack as described earlier or in the manner best suited to the situation. His large elegant hall ends in a small L-shaped platform, four inches higher than the rest of the floor. The walls are painted In pastel colors with scenes of jungle landscapes and places under siege. Rice straw mats line the walls. On the platform is a flat cushion, an Inkpot of red Ink, 2 brushes, an Inking stone, and a blank scroll of fine rice paper (worth 100gp if sold in a large city)."
    That's it. Nothing else. Most of the description is of the walls which don't show up on the map. :(
    To answer your questions, the buildings in the North corners are shacks for Bugbears. There are secret doors (three of them) in the small room off of the storage room. Those and the location numbers are noted on the GM Layer (not shown in this image).
    I'm going to try to attach the FCWs to the original post at the top (I hope). Let me know if you have any problems getting them.
    • CommentAuthorpvernon
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2020
     
    As a note, < start rant > People being people there should be WC/Head or whatever. In a setting before indoor plumbing, if said room is inside there should be a short route for the slops to be taken out, or if the room is outside there should be a door near to it and a path going straight to it, or if an inside room with a cesspit, there should be an easy way of digging it out.
    It is one of my pet peeves that most RPG artists do not put in the WC/Head, to the people that live there, there is nothing more important in the floor-plan/Dungeon. < end rant >

    Do Bugbears need a privy? They should just you can maneuver the PCs into it. Call it a pit trap :).
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2020
     
    Pvernon, lol! You are so very correct. This cannot be argued and must be implemented in my next map...somehow.
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    Posted By: arcwyndI sincerely appreciate it, DaltonSpence! This is advice I should use on all my building maps.
    … <snip> …
    I'm going to try to attach the FCWs to the original post at the top (I hope). Let me know if you have any problems getting them.
    When I tried to view Map H with CC3+ there were a lot of symbols that didn’t show up. I purged the symbols list and used the SYMLST command (Symbols menu → Rename & Reorder → Create Symdef Name File) to get their names and selected the ones with numeric prefixes which seem to be the problems. See below. 220808_JJMR_Jungle_Plant_Clump_
    44554-Jungletuft5
    82458-SvCJ Junle Plant 13 2x2
    82465-SvCJ Junle Plant 7 4x3
    44552-Jungletuft3
    209071_JJMJ_Jungle_Side_Join_2_
    128631_VTJM_Fern_8_1x1
    145324_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_2_3x3
    128638_VTJM_Ground_Cover_14_3x3
    209057_JJMJ_Jungle_Plant_9_3x3
    82463-SvCJ Junle Plant 5 3x3
    209078_JJMJ_Rock_3_3x3
    44539-Jungle Rocks 5
    44536-Jungle Rock 4
    44530-Jungle Log 2
    145329_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_7_3x3
    44397-JungleTree
    44553-Jungletuft4
    82461-SvCJ Junle Plant 2 3x3
    128643_VTJM_Ground_Cover_6_5x3
    47071-Cattails 1
    47075-Cattails 5
    47076-Cattails 6
    225253-Cattails 2
    225252-Cattails 1
    19489-Cattails 2
    225256-Cattails 5
    47077-Cattails 7
    225255-Cattails 4
    Where did you get them?
    EDIT: Okay, these symbols seem to have come from a custom directory which of course I don’t have. See this example listing: Symbol definition:
    Name: 220808_JJMR_Jungle_Plant_Clump_
    Low extents: 0.00000,-7.00000,0.00000
    High extents: 14.00000,7.00000,0.00000

    PICTR2: color 39 () layer 264 (SYMBOL DEFINITION)
    line style 0 (Solid) fill style 1 (Solid)
    line width 0.00000 tag # 17658 pen 0.000 mm 2nd color 39
    FileName: D:\Campaign Cartographer\My Assets\Jungle\Vegetation\220808_JJMR_Jungle_Plant_Clump_17_4x4.png
    Pixels: 14 x 16
    Center: 7.00000,0.00000
    Size: 7.00000 x 7.00000
    Angle: 0.00000°
    Flags: No outline, Resolution info is valid, One resolution only,
    Alpha mode: Alpha channel

    : color 39 () layer 264 (SYMBOL DEFINITION)
    line style 0 (Solid) fill style 0 (Hollow)
    line width 0.00000 tag # 17692 pen 0.000 mm 2nd color 39
      Map H.PNG
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2020 edited
     
    DaltonSpence, rrrriiiight. So, I do remember getting creative with my symbols with that map. Since you were so kind and did the work to list them, I shall put them together into one place so that they can be replaced with the symbol manager in CC3+. If those are the only ones that are missing, I know exactly where they are. I remember looking for jungle symbols for a few days. I will post that asap up at the top where the other files are. Thank you!
    By the way, even though you explained it, I still don't quite know how to pull up the list you obtained.
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2020
     
    DaltonSpence - Now I see where I obtained those particular symbols. I use Roll20 quite a bit. Those are a series of symbols created by the artist, Gabriel Pickard.
    You can find his website HERE for more information. Very sorry about that.
  4.  
    Here are the missing symbols on the other three maps:

    Map C South

    128631_VTJM_Fern_8_1x1
    145324_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_2_3x3
    145329_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_7_3x3
    145356_QEJR_Vines_2_2x1
    145355_QEJR_Vines_1_1x3
    209057_JJMJ_Jungle_Plant_9_3x3
    114374-VTWM Swamp Cattails 1 1x
    128643_VTJM_Ground_Cover_6_5x3
    114376-VTWM Swamp Cattails 3 1x
    44554-Jungletuft5
    37548_VT_Sand_Stone_Road_4x2_2
    37513_VT_Sand_Stone_Road_2x1_4
    37565_VT_Sand_Stone_Road_4x4_N_
    37488_VT_Sand_Stone_Road_1x1_11
    37503_VT_Sand_Stone_Road_1x1_Di
    44536-Jungle Rock 4
    44539-Jungle Rocks 5
    128657_VTJM_Haning_Vine_11_3x1
    128656_VTJM_Haning_Vine_10_4x1

    Map A North

    16F_castlewall-SOUTH-noinnerwal
    32Z_castlewall-WEST-noinnerwall
    128593_VTJM_Cliffs_15_3x3
    128590_VTJM_Cliffs_12_2x4
    145320_QEJR_Crumbling_Wall_6_7x
    145315_QEJR_Crumbling_Wall_1_3x
    145356_QEJR_Vines_2_2x1
    145355_QEJR_Vines_1_1x3
    82458-SvCJ Junle Plant 13 2x2
    220808_JJMR_Jungle_Plant_Clump_
    128643_VTJM_Ground_Cover_6_5x3
    145329_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_7_3x3
    145324_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_2_3x3
    128631_VTJM_Fern_8_1x1

    Map A SOUTH

    225245-Canoe 1
    174284-SLR Ruined Wall Doorway
    242231-QEFK Ruined Wall Doorway
    145356_QEJR_Vines_2_2x1
    145355_QEJR_Vines_1_1x3
    128631_VTJM_Fern_8_1x1
    145324_QEJR_Jungle_Plant_2_3x3
    145339_QEJR_Rubble_12_2x2
    44530-Jungle Log 2
    44536-Jungle Rock 4
    44539-Jungle Rocks 5
    • CommentAuthorArcwynd
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2020
     
    It wouldn't be appropriate for me to share those symbols, but I can tell you that castle walls are from Dundjinni mapping software and anything jungle related comes from the artist mentioned above. Sorry I can't do better than that for you. I really wanted to get the jungle feel on that map and Gabriel Pickard seemed to look the best. Map well, my friend.