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• Shessar 🖼️ 33 images Surveyor

  January 2020

  Oh, this is exciting and a much needed set.
  
  The only additional request that I would have is an extendable set of chasms, much like you are doing with the cliffs.

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• [Deleted User] 🖼️ 145 images

  January 2020

  I concur with Shessar, and would also like the respective equivalents of manors, chateaux and religious buildings. i absolutely love the idea of waterfalls as separate from cliffs.

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• Loopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 39 images Cartographer

  January 2020

  :O
  
  
  
  Wonderful!
  
  Yes please.
  
  And thank you very much!

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• Monsen Administrator 🖼️ 46 images Cartographer

  January 2020 edited January 2020

  Some suggestions for additional symbols
  
  Coastal
  More than one shipwreck would be nice to reduce uniformity when mapping dangerous coasts
  Ghost ships
  Pirate ships
  
  Structures
  Throw in a few bridges (stone, wood, rope), and preferably more directions than usual since these don't rotate well.
  Necromancer's tower
  Vampire's mansion/castle
  Mine entrances
  Prison
  Burning Cities
  War Camp
  Ruined Pyramid
  Ruined Ziggurath
  Plundered burial mound
  Broken Obelisk
  Snow-covered building set (village, town, city, etc)
  Overgrown ruins
  
  Textures
  Blighted plains and forests
  
  Vegetation
  Some snow-covered options would be great
  
  Mountains
  The active volcanoes should have variations with and without lava flows
  
  Map Icons
  Evil version of the normal races (human, elf, dwarf, halfling, gnome)
  Necromancers
  Vampires
  Undead
  Dead (rotting/skeletal) horse, cattle, sheep, camel.
  Dead people (as in dead, not undead [A skeleton laying in the desert makes it much more foreboding than just a plain desert])

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• JimP 🖼️ 280 images Cartographer

  January 2020

  I'm all for this.

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• ScottA Surveyor

  January 2020

  Oh, yes, please. Sign me up!

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• mike robel 🖼️ 15 images Surveyor

  January 2020

  In my view, a Battle Won and a Battle Lost are sort of superfluous. Every battle is both.
  
  Next to a Battle Lost, nothing is so melancholy except for a Battle Won.
  
  There is of course, the possibility that someone may raise a battle lost into a myth, such as the Alamo, so perhaps I am hasty in my judgement.

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• Monsen Administrator 🖼️ 46 images Cartographer

  January 2020

  Posted By: mike robelIn my view, a Battle Won and a Battle Lost are sort of superfluous. Every battle is both.

  It is a big difference if the ones making the map was involved in those conflicts....

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• [Deleted User] 🖼️ 145 images

  January 2020

  I tend to agree with Mike - the symbol for the Battle of Alamo would be the same for both Mexico and Texas; but the significance would be different to both. Not that it really matters

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• Loopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 39 images Cartographer

  January 2020

  I'm quite interested to see what Mike makes of it.
  
  Presumably he has already seen and approved this list, so he must think there is a difference.

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• Monsen Administrator 🖼️ 46 images Cartographer

  January 2020 edited January 2020

  Posted By: Quententhe symbol for the Battle of Alamo would be the same for both Mexico and Texas; but the significance would be different to both.

  That implies that you read a history book along with looking at the map, or otherwise assume that just by seeing the symbol the viewer would know about the battle and the result.
  On the other hand, if the government of France published a map of historic French battles, you can convey a lot of extra information on the map itself by using different symbols for battles they won and lost. Since it is their map, it makes sense to view battles from their viewpoint.
  For fantasy maps, they are usually made from the viewpoint of the good/civilized races (humans, elves, dwarves, etc), and battles occur more against the "evil" races (orcs, goblins, drow, troll, etc) than against other civilized races. Here it makes a lot of sense to differ between victories and defeats.
  
  Of course, it only makes sense if the map itself is aligned to one of the participants, a completely neutral map couldn't display anything but a neutral battle symbol.
  
  
  Personally, I just believe that more variation is always good though. Even if I don't have a use for a particular symbols and can't justify it's existence, others will have use for it.

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• LordEntrails Traveler

  January 2020

  I really like Monsen's additions. I would just add variations. Things that I would like to see variations of include;
  - blighted area
  - dungeon entrances
  - ruined everything (especially locations)
  - all the map icons (evil, orcs, etc)
  
  Some other ideas
  - Ruined seaport
  - Ruined anchorage
  - evil/dangerous sea rocks
  - sahuaghin here
  - sharks
  - abominations here
  - lich here
  - unholy site/defiled site (maybe just a variation of blighted?)

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• mike robel 🖼️ 15 images Surveyor

  January 2020

  Posted By: LoopysueI'm quite interested to see what Mike makes of it.
  
  Presumably he has already seen and approved this list, so he must think there is a difference.

  I haven't seen the graphics. I'm just stating an opinion.
  
  On the other hand, I had not considered the context that the person making the map is doing it from a personnel/national historical viewpoint or by the view that some participants are evil or good. Interesting.

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• Loopysue ProFantasy 🖼️ 39 images Cartographer

  January 2020

  LOL! Oh no - sorry Mike Robel. I meant Mike Schley I forgot to add his surname

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• kevbeck43 🖼️ 13 images Surveyor

  January 2020

  This would be really cool! I like all of these suggestions and would most likely purchase this set since I have purchased I think all of the others.

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• thehawk Surveyor

  January 2020 edited January 2020

  Posted By: mike robelOn the other hand, I had not considered the context that the person making the map is doing it from a personnel/national historical viewpoint or by the view that some participants are evil or good. Interesting.

  My favorite example of this sort of perspective is the map 'The World According to Orcs' from the old D&D Gazetteer 'The Orcs of Thar'.

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• mike robel 🖼️ 15 images Surveyor

  January 2020

  My oops! Now your comment makes sense.

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• Autumn Getty 🖼️ 18 images Surveyor

  January 2020 edited January 2020

  Posted By: thehawk

  Posted By: mike robelOn the other hand, I had not considered the context that the person making the map is doing it from a personnel/national historical viewpoint or by the view that some participants are evil or good. Interesting.

  My favorite example of this sort of perspective is the map 'The World According to Orcs' from the old D&D Gazetteer 'The Orcs of Thar'.

  
  
  I loved that Gazetteer!

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• Ralf Administrator, ProFantasy 🖼️ 18 images Mapmaker

  January 2020

  Thank you folks, we're taking all of these into consideration!

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