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    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2019 edited
     
    I have seen off and on many people asking about how to use the Mappa Harnica mapping style in CC3+. I have managed to get my hands on both the symbols and fills for Mappa Harnica and have been implementing them into the CD3 add on. This thread will have a number of tutorials showing how to do this.

    As I said I would do I am starting my tutorial on implementing Harn symbols and colors into CC3+. I am assuming that the user will know the basics of getting around windows and how to get to the files I reference. I also assume a basic working knowledge of CC3+. The first step is to add the Harn colors pallet into the CC3+ ProgramData folder. CC3+ installs most of the most important files in the data folder.

    This links to a short video on how to do steps 3 through 7. I will try to do another tutorial tonight. https://youtu.be/pPGMW9mFkPE

    1. To make the ProgramData folder visible you need to go to whatever drive you have CC3+ installed in and click the view button. (This is using Windows Explorer of course) This will make the ProgramData folder visible.

    2. Go into your programdata folder and find your ProFantasy folder. Click on that and then set up a shortcut to your CC3+ folder. You will be using this a lot.

    3. Download the Harn colors zip found at the beginning of this topic.

    4 Unzip the file to the desktop and rename the file FCW32.pal. Don't change the file extension.

    5. Using the shortcut you created to get inside your CC3+ folder drag and drop the FCW32.pal file into the CC3+ folder.

    6. To check that the colors are showing click on the CC3+ welcome file that should be in your CC3+ programdata folder.

    7. Click on the color button at the top and middle of the toolbar. You will see the colors about 3 quarters of the way down the color chart.

    Disclaimer: I am basically new to tutorials so if any of this is unclear I apologize but I hope this first step sets you on a good path to creating Harn Manor maps in CC3+!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2019
     
    Please excuse my ignorance, but what is Mappa Harnica?

    (I have a gist of an idea, but I'm asking for everyone who doesn't know as well as myself ;) )
    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2019 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Loopysue</cite>Please excuse my ignorance, but what is Mappa Harnica?

    (I have a gist of an idea, but I'm asking for everyone who doesn't know as well as myself ;) )</blockquote>

    Mappa Harnica was a tool created for making Harn manor style maps for Harnworld released by Columbia Games back in the mid-eighties. The original ProFantasy program Mappa Harnica was made for was CC2. Harnworld was and still is a campaign setting that over the years has produced a whole lot of background material. If you want to know more you can check out one of its more popular and active fan sites.

    https://www.lythia.com/
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2019
     
    Aaah. I see.

    I had this image of a huge and previously untapped symbol collection. Good job I asked, then! Thanks :)
    • CommentAuthormattekure
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2019
     
    I dont see a link to the downloads, both the original topic and the video reference a link.
    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2019
     
    That is an excellent point mattekure. I have remedied the situation below. Symbols First...
    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2019
     
    Then the colors. There you go.
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    do you have an example of a Harnworld map? Could you maybe make something to show us what makes it different?
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2019
     
    I remember it used a different pallete of colors. All I could find were commercial sites of the maps and they looked like regular maps. Hopefully someone else will have better luck than me.
    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2019 edited
     
    Here is an example. If you already know what Harn maps look like you will see what I mean. I did this with CC3+. I tried to use an effect for elevations. Traditional maps made by Columbia Games use labeled elevation lines.
      Harn (1).jpg
    • CommentAuthorpool7
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2019
     
    Is this what you're re-creating?
    http://columbiagames.com/cgi-bin/query/harn/cfg/single.cfg?product_id=5911

    IIRC these were created in CC2 (not sure if the maps were ever updated with CC3/CC3+ artwork; unlikely).
    There is a color palette file in that site for use with CC3 (maybe it works with CC3+ as well)
    • CommentAuthorkevbeck43
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2019 edited
     
    Posted By: pool7Is this what you're re-creating?
    http://columbiagames.com/cgi-bin/query/harn/cfg/single.cfg?product_id=5911

    IIRC these were created in CC2 (not sure if the maps were ever updated with CC3/CC3+ artwork; unlikely).
    There is a color palette file in that site for use with CC3 (maybe it works with CC3+ as well)


    Yes that is what I am trying to show people how to do. Many have asked about it on the Lythia forum and here. I am just trying to show them how but I am beginning to think that maybe people already know how to do this.
    • CommentAuthorpvernon
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    No, continue your how to.
    • CommentAuthorpool7
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    Yeah, sorry I didn't mean to discard your idea/project; I was curious as to whether it was somehow related to that.
    It's always good to see new ideas and projects like this :)