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    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime6 days ago edited
     
    I wonder if any of you remember the project that Tonnichiwa did a year or so ago? He made several rather lovely isometric buildings within Perspectives.

    I've always wanted to map an entire city using isometric symbols, so I have a new project on the back boiler now, designing new buildings in Sketchup for a new set of isometric city buildings.

    Here's a snapshot of one of them.

    The Sketchup models are very hard and sharp edged, so I will probably be doing quite a lot of redrawing in Krita by hand to make them look more natural.

    Is anyone interested in a set of these?
      Iso symbols.jpg
      Iso symbols2.jpg
  1.  
    Sounds like a great project.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    Thanks, Jay :)
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTime6 days ago edited
     
    Posted By: LoopysueIs anyone interested in a set of these?
    Stupid question. The answer is obviously yes :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    Yes ! Very much so !
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    Thanks :)

    These drawings take a lot of time and patience, so the encouragement is very welcome :)
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    I'm with Monsen, though not stupid, just not required
    • CommentAuthorScottA
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Yes, please.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Ok - its happening then.

    I just have to stop Krita V4 crashing, and we're away :)

    (bitmap editors, eh? *shakes head at crazy mess on screen as Krita plinks out for the nth time*)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    As a side note for anyone else using Krita to make their own symbols and fills, if you update to version 4.* don't try to import your old brushes, and expect to crash anyway when you add new ones to your 'favourites' tab.

    I've just had to delete all of mine, but the newer version is a lot better than the older one, so its worth the loss.

    V4 is a bit unstable, but it should improve as time goes by. There's a bug in that you can no longer press W to toggle the infinite plane view for making seamless textures, but its in the view menu if you need it. Just slightly inconvenient!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    This is an example of what I mean by redrawing the Sketchup buildings in Krita. It takes out the dead straight lines and allows for the kind of shading that you just can't do in Sketchup.
      Redraw.jpg
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Just fantastic. I love the little touches to the roof. perhaps the steps and underfloor could be darker or better defined - doesn't quite fit the rest of this great building.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Thank you! :)

    Maybe I actually need to outline the stones in that part instead of just raking the white through the brown with a special raking brush?

    This is relatively easy as drawings go. I started with an outline render of the building from Sketchup (without the colour), put it on an evenly textured piece of parchment I made in 3 layers within Krita, made the white transparent so it looked like it was drawn with a ruler on the parchment itself, coloured it in like a children's colouring book with flat washes allowing the parchment to form the texture in the walls and the roof background (which you can still see as the flecks of brown spotty stuff - a simple splatter brush). Then I used this fun new brush that came with Krita V4 that behaves like the cursor is the lead fish in a big shoal of slightly different colour fish to do the tiles in three simple straight-ish strokes of orange, tidied all the edges up and overlaid the shading on the eaves and the first floor overhang with a large soft brush. The hardest part was erasing the shading from all the little beam ends on the first floor overhang. By that time Krita was working the drawing (which is about 4x larger than the output will be) on 1.1 GB, and I only have 1.5 GB to use at the moment on this machine.

    I really can't wait until I get my new machine. Most of the 5 hours this took was spent waiting for Krita to unfreeze after every 15 minute autosave!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Its based on a genuine English village hall c.600 years old - this image. I had to guess at how the rest of the building went.

    I've wasted the valuable space at the end of the building by not adding doors and windows there as well, but this is something I've learned for future drawings.
      Reg 03.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Oh drat! I forgot the chimney... but its more modern than the building. Those are Victorian bricks with Victorian pots on the top. Its been turned into a shop these days.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime3 days ago
     
    I've started a challenge for myself to draw a new Sketchup model each day for the next fortnight.

    This is today's model - loosely based on a real house in Warwick, England - just outside one of the castle gates.
      House 01.jpg
  2.  
    Nice work, Sue. I'm looking forward to seeing more as you continue the project.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime2 days ago
     
    Thanks :)

    This is only the first stage of the challenge. I still have to redraw them all in Krita like the first one.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime2 days ago
     
    Day 2 - a much simpler house.
      House 02.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime2 days ago
     
    I found the ideal reference material in a real place.

    This is Mill Street in Warwick, England, on the banks of the River Avon, which for part of its length divides England and Wales.
      Mill Street.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime2 days ago
     
    You might (allowing for a lot of artistic licence) recognise the two closest buildings at this end of the street because the first two buildings I've drawn are strongly based on them.

    As the days go by I will work my way up the rest of the street.

    The best bit, however, is that this street is the one leading up to Warwick Castle. That's Mill Street leading up to the gate on the left.
      Warwick Castle.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime2 days ago
     
    So if all goes well with this isometric set, I have loads of reference material for all kinds of other stuff - like the parts for a castle. It would be too big as one symbol ;)
  3.  
    Keep up the good work, Sue. I can't wait to see more!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Thanks Jay :)

    I'm hoping to keep up with this personal challenge - one a day for a fortnight.
    • CommentAuthorGrimmric
    • CommentTime1 day ago edited
     
    This is all excellent work, but its just one small detail that keeps bugging me.
    The roof on the building at Day 2.
    The end of the roof skould be a bit smaller.

    Damn its hard to explain what i mean, as english is not my native language.
    But on the other hand, it might be a technical reason for this.
      House.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago edited
     
    Thank you :)

    Day 2 is an irregular shaped building viewed in isometric perspective.

    Here is a top view of the same building.

    Top view H2.jpg

    The only difference between true perspective and isometric view is that where parallel lines (such as those depicting the top and bottom of a rectangular wall) converge at a vanishing point in true perspective, they remain parallel in isometric view. So in an isometric projection the wall can be heading off at any direction (as indeed it does in my irregular building), it just never gets any smaller with distance.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago edited
     
    Here are a few more isometric projections of the 2 1/2 buildings I have done so far.

    These buildings could be rendered from several different directions and then re-worked in Krita to produce a 'town' all on their own, but I want there to be much more variety, so I will draw 4 times as many - and then render them from many different angles each. That way, I am hoping to end up with a set of symbols that can be used to make a city - providing I can manage to work my way through all that 'colouring in' in Krita ;)
      iso 1.jpg
      iso 2.jpg
      iso 3.jpg
      iso 4.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Day 3.

    Not quite finished (and still about 4 hours work to do on the side and at the back of the building), but I think you can see why. There are 2 quite complicated box windows on the front that took ages to get right.
      House 03.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Some would say this level of detail is unnecessary, bearing in mind that at the scale of a city those windows would be mere shadows on a building somewhere in the middle of all the rest, but I like to add as much detail as is necessary to make things look right at Dungeon scale at this drawing stage. Its easier to erase whilst colouring the building in than to add in Krita after the fact.
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    Looking good, Sue. I like this building.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Thanks Jay :)

    I just finished it a few minutes ago
      House 032.jpg
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime20 hours ago
     
    Day 4.

    Commitments and life are calling, so I've done this one really early. Its an angular extension to Day 3.
      House 04.jpg
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    Beautiful work Loopysue!
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime6 hours ago
     
    Thank you, Kavekdoriah :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTime2 hours ago
     
    Oh ooh ! Fascinating !
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTime1 hour ago
     
    Thank you Jim :)

    Hope you are feeling a bit better?

    Just finished Day 5 a whole day early, but I do have to go out tomorrow, so I'm unlikely to get anything done now till Thursday.

    I just know this one is going to end up being called "The OXO House" :P
      House 05.jpg