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    • CommentAuthorGathar
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2018
     
    Hello,

    Recently, a friend of mine told me he was looking for a building plan for a RPG session with his children. I told him: Just look at this very nice community atlas which is full of good stuff. However, when showing him, my experience was not very good. I had to start from the very top level, click on the links randomly, hoping that those links would lead me to maps of the scale he was looking for.

    So here is a suggestion (which unfortunately would ask more work from Monsen...): It would be nice is the site just contained a flat list of all the maps, it would be even better if tags could be associated with maps, and this flat list can be filtered by tags. Tags could be something like continent, region, city, building, underground, vector, a tag for the main styles, a tag per author...

    What do you think of it?
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2018
     
    One where the top level is the world, which opens to reveal the continents, and then each continent opens to show the regions, and the regions open to show the cities, and the cities open to show the individual buildings?

    Or do you mean a separate list of each of those things: continents, regions, cities, individual buildings?

    And even as I write this, its beginning to sound rather coincidentally similar to the way the Realm Works version is organised.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2018
     
    Implementing a tag system is actually on my to-do list, precisely for the reasons you mention, it is very difficult to find a particular kind of map in the atlas. One of my main concerns about this is how to implement a similar system for the actual atlas and not just for the web version (Probably going to rely on CC3+ bookmarks). The next question is of course maintainability. I am considering if some tasks, like tagging can be outsourced to others, but I need to figure the best way to handle it.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2018
     
    If its just a case of adding a single tag to each map, and if there are only 5-6 different tags (like "Region", "City", etc), and it if wouldn't involve downloading and reuploading all the maps (I have metered BB), I could do some of it?
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2018
     
    I could to, my Internet isn't metered.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    Thanks guys. I might take both of you up on that, but I'll actually need to make a system for it first to handle the tagging, and I haven't decided exactly how it will work yet.
    As for the tags themselves, I am thinking something along using this list of tags (maybe a few will be added later, based on suggestions, but I don't want too many either):
    - Overland: For large overland maps, from smaller local maps up to continent and world size. (not for battlemap-scale maps)
    - Underground: For various underground locations, such as cave systems
    - City: Used to separate the proper cities from the smaller settlements
    - Settlement: Used for every type of settlements, from small villages to great cities)
    - Floorplan: For building floorplans, including normal basements
    - Dungeon: For the actual dungeons
    - Batttlemap: For maps in a battlemap scale. Maps with this tag are ready to use as battlemaps as they are. Dungeon and floorplan maps MIGHT be battlemap-ready, or they might not, so that will vary with the map.
    - Character: For CA designs
    - Isometric: For Perspectives stuff
    - Astronomy: For everything related to space around the planet, such as starmaps, constellation maps and so on.

    Several maps will need several tags, for example, big cities are both settlement and city, and a dungeon ready for battlemap use should have both battlemap and dungeon tags. Likewise, JimP's perspective dungeons would carry both the dungeon and floorplan tags. Sometimes, it might be difficult to decide if something is a floorplan or a dungeon, in that case, it might be appropriate to just add both.


    I won't be adding tags for authors or continent, the structure in the map tree already provides this information, I only need to extract it. (We already have the maps by mappers page)

    For the actual atlas in CC3+ format, I am thinking about making one bookmark file for each of those tags and add the relevant maps to them, so you can easily just open the bookmarks file. I think I can actually generate these bookmarks files automatically from the tags.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    Sounds good to me :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    Sounds fine to me to.
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    Another great idea, or 'having a Monsen'
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2018
     
    Hey all.....this is what i've been hoping for! Now that i've returned (literally JUST as i am suffering in the wee wee hours of the morn jet lag off a two week Italy visit) AND moved and settled in my new apartment I certainly have free time to help as well, Remy. When you're ready to go, include me in :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2018
     
    over 700 views of my postings about the Atlas on Dragonsfoot.org

    Please let me know when the tags are implemented so i can mention it over there.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    First version of the search system is now online, check it out at http://atlas.monsen.cc/Search.


    The search conditions are implemented in such a way that a map need to match all criteria to turn up in the search results, except for the individual tags, where it must match one of the selected tags. I find this the most useful combination, and I am probably not going to bother to deal with the extra complexity of letting people choose and/or behavior for each criteria. To be honest, who would ever really need a search such as "Give me all the maps designed by JimP OR on the continent of Ezrute" (The AND condition of that statement is of course useful, and what the search currently does)

    Please give me feedback if anything is not working as intended or any maps are tagged wrongly.
    • CommentAuthorGThiel
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Looks good!!! and seems to work as expected. I ask that the Drow Outpost be moved to the dungeon category, thank you. On a slightly different topic, I like the way all the maps show up as thumbnails under the search. Would it be possible to do the same thing on the Mappers page?
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Great work Remy :)
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Posted By: GThielWould it be possible to do the same thing on the Mappers page?
    I'd prefer to not do that, because that would cause every single map to be loaded each time someone visits that page. But you can easily get all the thumbnails for any given mapper from the search page if you just specify the mapper and nothing else.
    • CommentAuthorGThiel
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    You're right, didn't think of doing the search on just the author, my (very) bad :-)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Posted the search link to Dragonsfoot forums.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    And since the maps now have tags, I've also implemented bookmarks in the downloadable atlas. They're located in the 'Bookmarks' subfolder, one bookmark set for each tag, so you can for example open up the City bookmark set to list all the cities. The bookmarks are generated using the same tags as the online version, so you should find the same maps as if you were searching by tags on the website, although it isn't possible to include combinations easy the same way I can on the website.

    Note that due to how relative paths work in CC3+, these bookmark sets only work when you already have an atlas map loaded up (and the "start screen" doesn't count).
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Atlas map loaded up means FCW or PNG?
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2018
     
    fcw
    • CommentAuthorGathar
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2018
     
    Thank you so much Monsen !!
    I really think is a great improvement for the atlas !!