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    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Tinkering around early this morning...I'm primarily using the Alyssa Faden's City Streets Annual style from Issue Sept 2016 and the usual free CSUAC, Bogies, and Dundjinni Archives - and also Sue's fantastic Atlas Trees she has so kindly provided us.
      Al-Sanadin East Market.PNG
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    A little more progress for the day....
      Al-Sanadin East Market2.PNG
    • CommentAuthorGThiel
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    looks good!!! tho in this case perhaps the border is over kill?? Or is this intended to be a walled market?
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      CommentAuthorDogtag
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018 edited
     
    Beautiful. I agree with GThiel, though, the border could be mistaken for a wall. It's gorgeous and fitting for the tone of the map, but it does feel like part of the map rather than a border.

    The layout, as usual, is nicely thought-out. I can easily imagine my PC going from stall to stall trying to find the missing piece to Amulet of Sarif ibn Alz, chasing a thief through the throng, or fighting members of the Akhwan Mhkem by the fountain. And that's my own personal litmus for mappy-goodness.

    It seems a little weird, though, seeing western-style roofs in a presumably middle-eastern setting. It's a fleeting feeling, given the general beauty of the map and the wonderful colors, but I do notice it. And, Shadow Police alert: the 3rd-party tent symbol in the upper right is casting a shadow on the ground at 5 o'clock but the dome of the tent is shaded at 12 o'clock.

    I really like the cobble in the square, it really fits the character of the city. And the sphinxes (?) at the south entrance to the market are a nice touch. :D

    Cheers,
    ~Dogtag
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Thank you!

    No, the border is just for asthetics....and to separate the map and my intended key on the bottom after i number/label some landmarks
    • CommentAuthorScottA
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    I actually like the tile border but don't care for the cobble fill in the market square because of the obvious repetition in the pattern. But that's just me...
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      CommentAuthorDogtag
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018 edited
     
    I also forgot to mention how awesome the map title looks. It's subtle and easy to miss (or, more accurately, to just take for granted), but it really looks great.
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018 edited
     
    Thanks all. I'm not particularly thrilled with the cobbles, either, but increased the size of the fill for less repetition. They are rather large stones, but it's better, i think. Added more buildings in the background and labels. I'm done for today. I'll make any final changes sometime this week before sending in to Remy
      Al-Sanadin Eastern Bazaar.PNG
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Oh I missed this one (been a bit busy doing a map for a friend)

    Very beautiful :)

    Now you've got me all 'into' doing some more cobble fills...

    Distractions... distractions... :P
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Oh sheesh. Sue i completely forgot about your FILLS! Here's a version with your cobblestone....
      Al-Sanadin Eastern Bazaar2.PNG
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018 edited
     
    Gorgeously exotic!

    Scale maybe? And the building shadows vanishing off the right edge look a little odd now. Plus we've lost half the final "r" in the title's "Bazaar" presently.

    I might be inclined to lose the map frame altogether as well; seems a bit too claustrophobic now to me.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    I don't really know if I prefer those or the other cobbles. They were meant for city maps, where the scale is a bit smaller. That's why they are all the same colour.

    I think I need to do some that are more battle-map scale with a bit more interest in them....

    I wonder if Remy would accept a couple more fills into the Atlas folder?
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    You're right, Sue. But i think for the streets here it works. i've replaced the fill in the bazaar and the fill on the frame to make it less busy
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    I DEFINITELY prefer the brick/stone fill to the cobble fill - also far more comfortable to walk on esp in sandals. But the map is great. Another thing - where are the slaves in the slave market - CSUAC and Dundjinni provide plenty of figures.
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    A little bit of both...
      Al-Sanadin Eastern Bazaar3.PNG
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      CommentAuthorDogtag
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Looks wonderful. I like the new frame, too.
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Spot on, but still no languishing slave women and sadistic slave owners.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Maybe the slaves are hunky males, and this is a matriarchal society :P
    • CommentAuthorLorelei
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Ahh....Quenten, I don't add figures to the maps if i can help it, as this is actually a 400x400 battle map :) Placing a figure on the map would make it so that figure could not move from that spot, despite what may be happening in the market (ie a Blue Dragon swoops down on the city...and everyone runs causing a mad panic....make a Dexterity check to see if you can keep up with the running crowd or get trampled :) )
    • CommentAuthorScottA
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2018
     
    Really like the cobbles now slightly larger. That really works and the repetition isn't as obvious. Very nice!.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2018
     
    Lorelei - I know you can't use this in an Atlas map unless Remy wants to add it to the library of Atlas fills, but I did a similar...ish cobble/brick fill that has more bricks per swatch as a bit of stress therapy this evening. Its very basic, but more complicated would be distracting I think.

    This is your thread, so I've uploaded it at the Guild in my Room 1024 album here:

    https://www.cartographersguild.com/album.php?albumid=5130&attachmentid=105194
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2018
     
    This is looking really good now.

    With the cobbles, a repetitive pattern would work, as such open spaces were, and still are, often deliberately paved to have a patterning of some kind. If so, that might work better with a sharp break around the edges exactly along the pattern lines. Irritatingly though, a circular pattern centred on the well might be the preferred option in a real-world setting - maybe try those paler cobbles in a circle covering the Tent Bazaar's area instead, with the squared cobble patterning beyond?

    And one tiny niggle. I have the impression the blue Alsharqia Oasis well-head is fractionally off-centre to its surrounding pair of circular steps. That may be just me though, being fooled by the shadow effect on what seems the "shorter" side of the well.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2018
     
    Another great map for the atlas. Thanks Lorelei.

    Al-Sanadin Market