Community Atlas, Desperate Caves, The Ghost Tower, dungeon dungeon & first floor

JimP · February 2018

Annual Vandel dwarves template. 1200 x 900.

background Natural Stone 3 CA94

hallways Plains_MS, Land_MS

walls Evil Terrain

Room: color 247.

Pits: solid 10 and solid 40

Stairs: CA94

Doors: CA94

from Bogie Battlemap symbols: Campfire0004 bq, and Rock05 bq

CA94 Monster Skeleton

Scale and Compass Rose from the same Annual.

The map so far. I tried hiding the grid, stays the same. Map is originally exported at 1200 x 900 pixels. Deep pits. I am looking for a windlass and some minig cars to go with this.

FCW attached.

Monsen · February 2018

Last' years annual should have a mine issue, "Munson's mines". That should contain some mining equipment

JimP · February 2018

Okay, thanks. I remember it now.

I'm checking layer by layer save as, no whatever those are, so far.

Monsen · February 2018

The artifacts seems to be a result of the symbol fill you are using on the floors. Seems to not render correclty on higher resolutions. May be a result of it being made up of 0-width lines. You can see them mess up if you try to zoom a bit out as well. (further than zoom extents)

JimP · February 2018

So far. Water: Sea_MS and Ice_MS

I deleted the problem.

JimP · February 2018

With sheet effects. Makes it look a bit.. .well... nicer. And it shouldn't be, unless you think of the green as mold and fungi.

JimP · February 2018

Any suggestons on this ? I'm not sure where to go with this.

Monsen · February 2018

Seems like there is a lot of digging and mining going on. Have you considered making one or more of the access-tunnels more mine-tunnel like? Perhaps with some tracks laid down (I explain one method of making tracks in the Escarpment examples in the tome (Found on page 165)

JimP · February 2018

I'll check into that.

JimP · February 2018

I went with drawing a line and trying offsetcpy. Apparently too large a scale for me to see the results. So I did a cop of the lines coming into the mine. I zoomed in and had them at 4, instead of 1.1. So I moved them closer. Looks okay at 8192 pixels, but this is 70% of 1200 pixels.

JimP · February 2018

Thinking about taking the middle passage and turning it into a more cave like area.

Monsen · February 2018

May I recommend an inner glow on those 'floors sunk' sheets. It creates an even better illusion of depth than just coloration itself. Here is a screenshot with an inner glow (black, 100%, 10 map units) from the map file you posted earlier.

JimP · February 2018

Okay. Here is the cave change.

JimP · February 2018

Here is with the inner glow.

JimP · February 2018

Added some rocks and stalagmites. This is the low res, 1200 pixels cut down to less than 900. I'm rendering another one at 8192 pixels, and will cut it down before posting it. i wanted to see if i looked okay.

JimP · February 2018

Green rectangle from somewhere. 10% of 8192 pixels.

Monsen · February 2018

The green rectangle is from a turquoise glow effect on the floor sunk 1 sheet. It is set to be in percentage of view width, causing it to vary in apparent strength as you zoom in/out, and becoming very noticeable in an export (Which causes the map render to look much the same as if you do a very deep zoom)

The reason it appears as a rectangle and not the entire map is the way CC3+ renders a map in strips, and it can't render effects that have their origin outside the current strip.

JimP · February 2018

Fixed the colors and no grid. 10% of 8192.

JimP · February 2018

Do I need to do anything else before I submit ?

Thanks.

Monsen · February 2018

I noticed the first level of the uneven pit doesn't have the inner glow effect. I think this is because it is on the same sheet as the larger rectangular edge. I recommend splitting those up into separate sheets, and apply the inner glow to both of them.

I also noticed that the rectangular one is clearly a pit, since you have ladders going down into it, but the railroad also seem to run right into it, oblivious to the edge. Those should probably end up top, or have a ramp down.

JimP · February 2018

Ah, its not a pit. Its a mineral rich discolored area. Probably be better if i made it the same as the room color, or made it jagged instead of square.

I thought I put effects on all of the pits. I'll check that.

JimP · February 2018

How is this ?

JimP · February 2018

Here it is at 10% of 8192. No grid.

Monsen · February 2018

Looks better. I was wondering about that huge rectangular depression anyways. But that leaves a ladder in an odd position a square south of the large pit's east end.

JimP · February 2018

Storage ? I'll remove it.

JimP · February 2018

Here is the next try. Added some labels.

JimP · February 2018

Made a couple of changes. The large rocks in the mine are for defense. The ones in the basement are for support of the buildings above.

Monsen · February 2018

That area is pretty large, so it looks like this is a major operation. How about some buildings in there, to function as guard barracks, administrator's office, and so on?

Loopysue · February 2018

Hi Jim

I've been following this thread even though I haven't been commenting on it. Remy seems to have everything covered, and its looking really good now.

I was just wondering what that fill is that you are using as the background? I can't tell. Its scaled so tiny all I can see is a sort of grid pattern.

JimP · February 2018

I'm using the Annual Vandel Dwarves and the fill is Natural stone CA94. i tried several settings for height/width, and couldn't come up with one that gave a better look. I'll look at some buildings.

JimP · February 2018

Here is the next iteration.

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