Community atlas - Stromphe City - Dockside district

[Deleted User] · November 2017

I have subdivided Stromphe, now in the Atlas, into ~550x550 metre squares. The first one encompasses the Dockside, Lookout Hill and golden mews Districts, along with the Speaker's villa. May get the done by Xmas, as I am keen to work on some buildings from the district, mainly generic ones.
So here is the very start. I am using just CD3 at present, Bitmap A, but nearly certinly will use CSUAC, Bogies< Dundjinni and Bitmap B. Please keep up your critical comments as I labour on this.

Shessar · November 2017

I'm really looking forward to watching your progress on this Quenten. It is going to be an amazing map.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Here is a progress report. The black represents where the buildings will be - much easier for me now to lay them in. So just the buildings proper with CD3, some ship and cart symbols, vegetation and various ground fills, fences where needed, and of course, labelling. sounds a lot, but less work than I have had to date.

Shessar · December 2017

This is quite wonderful! I love how you did the docks. What fill style is that?

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Floorboards rough, in ss2. I am turning down the glow on the streets (which i have used to replace the black street background - makes editing a LOT easier. I will also darken the docks and see how that turns out - thank heavens for adjust Hue/Saturation, which makes it easy. Otherwise the docks was as per Monsen's tutorial in the city section of the Tome.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

This is what I am up to now, and the sort of way I will be developing the district. Comments please, and helpful suggestions.

Jensen · December 2017

looking good, as I am a fail in doing Cities, no helpful suggestions from me, but a question: where are the ships from?

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Ships are from CSUAC2.0, a free download. See the top sticky topics on the forum. Well worth getting, along with Bogies and Dundjinni

LadieStorm · December 2017

There are very few maps that I make that don't contain something from the CSUAC, Bogie's Mapping Objects or the DA. Interestingly enough, one of those maps, the one I'm currently working on, is one of the few maps that doesn't have anything extra!

This is looking fantastic, so far, btw, I can't want to see it finished!

Wyvern · December 2017

Don't want to give you more work Quenten, but maybe some additional texture/features for the sea bottom might be interesting? The sea floor looks a bit too pristine currently, compared to the ships and docks, while the shadow separation between the ships and their shadows suggests the water's shallow enough that the main sea floor features should be visible too.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

I had already intended to fix the sea contours, but i want to get all the buildings done first. good point about the sea bottom, though.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Here are all the buildings done, In addition, in the tradition of 'Where's Wally", I have put figures of Remy Monsen, Joe Layton, Dogtag and Ralf in the streets somewhere. To make it really easy, I have labelled them with their initials. Possibly a little hard to see at this magnification, but when I have added trees and statues and fountains etc, and fixed the water, and put more labels on (need to add B for Brothels, and P for police station), I will post a link to a high-res map. The prize for the first one picking them will be an important building named in their honour (Wow!).

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Another update - sea (is this what you had in mind, Wyvern), vegetation, statues, fountains and a frame added. Just some main streets to name, and more building labelling (especially the brothels/dens, and therefore the police stations and lock-ups - just for the sake of naughty adventurers - snicker)

kathorus · December 2017

I really dig those docks.

Dogtag · December 2017

Looks good Quenten. I particularly like the shallow sea you added. Not a big fan of the mermaid decoration (good gravy, I hope that's just a decoration) but that's probably just me.

What are the gray shapes between the mermaid and the scale?

[Deleted User] · December 2017

The grey shapes are just bridge rails for me to copy where needed; as I haven't finished them yet, they are still there. I will work on the cliffs (always a headache for me), add some more 'people' (carts, etc - all will be on a special layer, so they can be turned off easily), finish the labelling; and for your epicurean sensitivities, Dogtag, the mermaid IS decoration. Keep your gravy off! I would love to put a ship barometer/navigation apparatus in her place, but will have to trawl through the allowable symbol sets to for this. But it is nearly finished, so critical comment required. I am working on the notes at present.
My future plans are to do a few buildings from here as 'typical' for that type of building elsewhere. From this district, I will do a warehouse, Temple, Shopping Arcade, and hostel/brothel/tavern. I am also reserving the Speaker's Villa, which I want to look a little like this.

Wyvern · December 2017

That certainly improves the definition of the sea floor Quenten, though if anything, I'd be inclined to make it a little less subtle than at present, particularly in the near-shore shallows. It may be worth thinking of adding a few extra rocks, especially around the buildings constructed on the water. Your Speaker's Villa illustration shows what I mean very nicely, since any constructions like this on the water would have to have solid rocky foundations if they were in the real world. Similarly, it may be worth considering swapping the Speaker's Villa wooden landing for something more robustly stone, again as in your perspective illustration.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Good points, Wyvern, and will be put on the next update. Keep those comments coming. I quite like the change at present on the sea floor, though, but I am not happy about the seaweed. will look for better symbols.

Tonnichiwa · December 2017

This is looking really good Quenten!

JimP · December 2017

DogTag, there has to be a sea monster. Looks like she could destroy one of those ships without trying very hard.

CharlesWayneRobinson · December 2017

Absolutely Awesome!!!!!

Lorelei · December 2017

This is just wonderful Quenten! I love it. Although I agree, i don't care much for the mermaid, the map itself it just real pretty. Bravo

[Deleted User] · December 2017

OK, OK, the mermaid just came up for air, flopped onto the docks and perished. Now the good burghers have chucked huge anchors into the ocean to keep those peskie mermaids away (how this works is a mystery to me).
Rocks and stone wharf, and better seaweed added.
Next update when I have finished labelling.

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Well, thanks to Dogtag's inhumanity to mermaids, she is now in a specimen bottle (filled with the best ouzo) in the maritime museum in the Customs House.
This is about the final version. Please don't hesitate to nit-pick. This is the first time I have done anything like this, and i want to do the other ditricts in Stromphe over 2018. So I need you all to help my learning curve.
But it has been a labour of love (esp a labour!)

[Deleted User] · December 2017

And I fixed the spelling of buoys

Dennis Landi · December 2017

Hi Quenten,

I am new here. This is really great work.

-dennis

crb31 · December 2017

really great work! In doing my own city I get bogged down in details and don't like the way it is coming out so I stop. Thanks for showing us the progression of you map it gives me some inspiration to move on from my starting map.

jslayton · December 2017

Does http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/16658/16673086_2.jpg?v=8D04270A8CA23B0 accurately sum up what happened to that poor mermaid?

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Dogtag, even Joe know what you are like about mermaids. I have reported you to the Royal Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Mermaids and other Fictional Creatures (RSPCMFC).

Wyvern · December 2017

Quenten somewhat wearily commented:...it has been a labour of love (esp a labour!)

But you must recall that Rome Stromphe City wasn't built in a day, Quenten...

Setting aside the dubious delights of the mermaids and what some may do with them, the key listing looks a little too transparent, and maybe the "Buoys" label and markers should be a bit more like the rest of that list, since right now, they could be two more markers at sea which are actually named "Buoys". Maybe it would be helpful to add in the PDF map notes too (if not already) that these are actually lamp buoys, and what the lights mean, for those less familiar with maritime usage?

[Deleted User] · December 2017

Good point about the buoys. But I like the 'watery' feel to the key. And Rome ain't seen nothin' yet!
(Still in shock, horror and inconsolable grief about the mermaid)