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    • CommentAuthorTSRThomas
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Hey, All,

    I am trying to create a style of map that features patterns to indicate different types of terrain coupled with different colors to show various types of vegetation. So I have polygons in several shades of green for different types of woodland, brown for heath, yellow for plains and croplands, etc. Then I have a polygon with a lightly filled dot pattern for hills and a denser pattern for mountains. If you are familiar with the large poster map of Harn, I'm trying to duplicate that style.

    In order to make this work, I have tried a couple of different things, but I am running into trouble.

    If I create a fill-style polygon on a higher layer (as in it gets drawn later than the vegetation), it covers up my vegetation, because it is treating its white background as an opaque field. If I turn on transparency, the colors underneath show up but are muted.

    However, if I move the fill-style polygon to a lower layer (drawn before the vegetation), with the vegetation set to 50% transparency, I get the effect I want, except for my near-white ICE AND SNOW layer, which is one of the last to draw and has no transparency, because otherwise, it picks up the color from the base layer, cropland, which is yellow and fills the whole map.

    I have contemplated a few different workarounds for this, but what I'd really like to do is find out if there is a way to make my terrain polygons both "see-through" (so that only the pattern is opaque) and borderless. I went hunting in the help index and in these discussion forums and didn't find anything.

    Is this possible?

    Thanks,

    T
    • CommentAuthorJMunsonII
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    A combination of Blend Mode - Multiply along with Transparency may be helpful here...
    • CommentAuthorTSRThomas
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Ok, I am a moron. I now see there is a check box on the fill style dialog that allows me to turn off outlining. So THAT part of this issue is solved.

    Thanks, JMunsonII, for the suggestion. I'm playing with Blend Mode but not having complete luck yet. According to the Tome of Ultimate Mapping, brush patterns are supposed to already be see-through, so I'm not sure why mine isn't working that way.

    I will keep hunting. . . .
    • CommentAuthorJMunsonII
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    My brush patterns aren't see-through either... As I'm no expert in this program (I only know a little), I don't have an answer for that.

    However, I created a new sheet to hold a brush pattern poly, created a poly on that sheet, etc.

    I filled it with "waves."

    I added to the sheet a Blend Mode of Multiply, and it works just fine. Do you have sheet effects turned on?
      Pattern.PNG
    • CommentAuthorJMunsonII
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017 edited
     
    I took another look at the fills - seems there are two varieties. Some have white "backgrounds," others have no background. Filling with one of the patterns that has no background negates the need for a multiply effect... I'm intrigued...

    EDIT: Those patterns with no backgrounds are scalable - different class of fill altogether...
    • CommentAuthorTSRThomas
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Well, I figured out a solution. I had to create a PNG file in another program (which I actually like better, anyway, because it looks more hand drawn) and then import it as a bitmap fill style. In the "Fill Style Properties" dialog, under the "Bitmap Files" tab, I turned on "Transparent Color" and set the value to white (255 across the board). My new pattern sits on top of my vegetation just like I wanted.

    I see no way to change that transparent color setting on the "Brush Patterns" tab, so this may be the only way to do that.

    Anyway, thanks for your help! :-)

    T
    • CommentAuthorJMunsonII
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Yes, that's one way to solve the issue. :)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Hi TSRThomas :)

    I can make a brand new high res transparent fill for you - if I know what kind of pattern you want?

    I use Genetica, and can probably do most simple patterns in a matter of minutes, with a similar resolution to the standard PF texture fills.

    Just give me a rough description (ie how big these dots are and whether they are diagonally or vertically aligned, or not aligned at all) and I'll rustle a couple of alternatives up for you.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    I just deposited a handful of dotty fills in a new thread called 'Dotty Fills', if they are of any use to you :)
    • CommentAuthorTSRThomas
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2017
     
    Hey, Loopysue,

    That is very generous of you. Thanks!

    T