that annoying Red Cross Of Death
HelenAA
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by the Red Cross of Death I mean that red X on a white background which means, to me, anyhow, that the mage isn being allowed by CC3Plus.
I'm coming to the conclusion that if I've used the same images in a run of versions a map of any ilk, suddenly I'm being denied access to it. Does this happen to others, if so anyone know why or how to reverse the process?
My maps tend to go to hell if I don't ave them in different versions with each major addition - at the moment it's rooms; I've SaveAs when I have completed - more or less - each room so if the later rooms turn inside out and start showing mere crosses where the nigh before they'd been chairs/tankards/frying pans I've theoretically got an earlier version. Doesn't always work, but I can hope...
I do Ctl-A to Export as a new name, CC3Plus doesn't seem to have any other way of saving an existing file as a different name.
Also the catalogues lose .pngs for no reason.
I'd appreciate any insights into this matter.Thanks
I'm coming to the conclusion that if I've used the same images in a run of versions a map of any ilk, suddenly I'm being denied access to it. Does this happen to others, if so anyone know why or how to reverse the process?
My maps tend to go to hell if I don't ave them in different versions with each major addition - at the moment it's rooms; I've SaveAs when I have completed - more or less - each room so if the later rooms turn inside out and start showing mere crosses where the nigh before they'd been chairs/tankards/frying pans I've theoretically got an earlier version. Doesn't always work, but I can hope...
I do Ctl-A to Export as a new name, CC3Plus doesn't seem to have any other way of saving an existing file as a different name.Also the catalogues lose .pngs for no reason.
I'd appreciate any insights into this matter.Thanks
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If a program "behaves" for quite some time then suddenly doesn't, that's a clue that something on your system has changed, or has an impending crash, and it may not necessarily have anything to do with the program.
1. Restart the program. Sometimes that cures odd behavior.
2. Temporarily disable anti-virus/anti-malware and try the program again.
3. Reboot the computer and try the program again.
4. If you installed something (and can recall what) just before the program started to misbehave, if you can, uninstall that/those item(s) and try the program again.
You might also want to take the trouble to verify that the files CC3 can't find are, indeed, actually where they are expected - maybe they got moved, deleted, or changed in some way...
PF might be of more help if none of the above cure the ill.
As a last resort (after talking with PF), completely remove CC3 and then reinstall it. While I'm not sure how CC3 tracks all the add-ons, if its in the registry, that could have gotten corrupted and needs to be rebuilt, which, AFAIK, can only be done via reinstallation. File->Save As should be accomplishing what you want, something doesn't sound right there...
Jon
The red X is caused by a broken link to the original file. This happens when you move the file to another location on your hard drive, rename the file, or delete the file, making it impossible for CC3(+) to know where it is. The png image files (symbols and fill styles) are not part of the maps. Your maps only tell CC3 where the image files are located on your hard drive.
So, the solution to the red x is to return the image file to its original location when the map was created. I hope this makes sense and helps.
Have you checked the physical folders to be sure the symbols are actually there?
I cam SEE the .png in the folder
I cam SEE the .png in the folder
but its not listed in the column next to the map. Not many of them show up in that as X until I go tp place the image!
If you select the symbol and place it, does it render?
I noticed that your png files for the CSUAC are sitting in the GMSyndicate folder. This was the very first version of the CSUAC that I made (we are now on the 4th version) and is certainly not compatible with CC3+. For CC3+ updated versions I recommend using the newest version put out by the Vynteri Project. There is a link at the beginning of this thread, and a sticky at the top of the forum for the contact info to the Vynteri Project in case you have problems installing it.
Hope that helps.
Generally, this problem happens when the folders containing the images are moved around, and list helps you identify this.
I'm going to have to put the Syndicate folder back - or start all over again!
Don't delete the new ones. Just add the old ones back where they were. (Just the .fsc and .png files not any menu folders if that version used them.)
This will let you still see your old maps. However i highly recommend that you use the new set for any new maps created using CC3+ since you were showing signs of Plus not finding the pngs where it wanted them.
Please, ask any questions you have. I'll keep an eye on this thread to make sure you get straightened out.
However, if you do as Monsen recommended above:
-"if it is a symbol, go into the symbol manager, select the symbol there and hit the list button" (even if the symbol is showing as a red x)
You can then create the folder structure as listed and put your .pngs there.
It is a bit of trouble, but changes in operating systems, computers, as well as the transition from CC3 to CC3+ will cause these problems for all of us. This is why ProFantasy has to re-create all of the Annuals. They too are paying the price of an improved product. Software just doesn't like when you move things around and change the names of folders.
The thing that bugs/annoys me is that if I leave CC3+ alone for a time, i.e months, everything sorts itself out.
Please ignore this point if it turns out to be a red herring!
It can also happen randomly in the system-provided catalogues when I want to use an image that I've not used at all. The search goes on.
That doesn't mean you can't use graphics you have carefully and painstakingly collected and sorted into your user folders, because you can make your own fsc files without too much trouble. It only takes a few minutes, and there's a Joe Sweeney video on how to do it here