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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2018 edited
     
    Jerry's latest map (see above) is now added to the atlas. Thanks for contributing.

    Harbor Master Stromphe Roof
    Harbor Master Stromphe Second Floor
    Harbor Master Stromphe First Floor
    Harbor Master Stromphe
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2018
     
    Hi People.

    For practical purposes, I am making a minor change to the reservation rules. Going forward, I will now delete any reservation more than one year old. I'll be happy to extend any reservation beyond this, all the mapper need to do is to tell me he/she heeds more time, but I need a time limit for management purposes. It is not always easy to get hold of people to ask them if they still need that old reservation, so this makes it easier for me to remove stale reservations.
    One year should normally be way more than enough to complete most maps, so most mappers should never encounter this at all. And again, if anyone do find themselves with the need for more time beyond this, simply tell me. This isn't about rushing the mapper or pose a time limit on the mapping, it is merely a tool for me to be able to more easily clean up old reservations that will probably never be completed anyway.
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2018
     
    This seems perfectly sensible Monsen. Perhaps it would be worth noting here any such expirations, should this mechanism be needed, in case it might tempt someone else to take over that area?
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2018
     
    Posted By: WyvernPerhaps it would be worth noting here any such expirations, should this mechanism be needed, in case it might tempt someone else to take over that area?
    I won't be doing that, simply because that adds yet another thing to my workload. It is extremely simple for me to semi-automatically remove the reservations from the map tree, while constructing a post identifying such an area would actually be at the very least 10 times as much work, and all these small things do add up. Combined with the fact that with all the available space in the atlas, I assume this will be an extremely rare event in any case, so this information will be mostly wasted.

    If anyone is after a particular area that is reserved and they see it continues to lie undeveloped for a long time, I suggest you contact the person directly, their name is below the work in progress image you see when you click in on a reservation.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2018
     
    I fully intend to finish Sanctuary this time. I'm just working on an annual right now ;)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2018 edited
     
    I'm going to look over the areas I have already mapped on the Forlorn Archipelago, large areas, and look at putting a town in there.

    Somewhere in this area: ( Its the Dead Forest near the Lonely Lighthouse. On Basher Bay) I'll be mapping some of the abandoned towns and maybe the keeps.
      deadforest_west.PNG
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2018
     
    Great.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2018
     
    First one will be Village of the Salt Gatherers. Area map, then zooming in. I'll start a thread for it.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2018 edited
     
    I've now added a feature to the online version atlas that shows the list of maps each mapper has contributed.

    The list also shows reservations, so you can easily see if you have a reservation you forgot about.

    The list should also be helpful in spotting mistakes in my map registrations (caught a few myself when I made this).

    You can find this list here, and it is also linked from the main mappers page in the atlas.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2018
     
    Wow. I made 25. I hadn't realized I had made that many.
    • CommentAuthorJosh.P.
    • CommentTimeAug 15th 2018
     
    Such a great addition Monsen! Thanks so much. I was browsing only a few weeks ago trying to find a specific map made by Jerry.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2018 edited
     
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2018
     
    How close are we to 300 maps ? Or did I miss some and we are past that point ?
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2018
     
    This set of maps brought us to 252 maps (you can always check the current number on the download page.

    I guess 250 maps is a very nice milestone too, a quarter of the way to 1000.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2018
     
    Great stuff :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2018
     
    Ah, well on our way to 300. Thanks for the info !
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2018
     
    Pretty heavy rain in my area, seems to have taken out my ISP. I have communication with one of their DNS servers, but no connection to the rest of the internet, so problem seems to be in their network, and not my connection.
    Anyway, that means that the atlas will be down until they fix stuff. Probably won't take too long, but if the rain flooded/destroyed things, it might not be a simple repair.
    Going to bed now, hopefully things are back when I wake up tomorrow, if not you know why.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2018
     
    So many servers seem to be vulnerable to this kind of thing. We know its not your fault, Remy, but thanks for letting us know :)
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2018
     
    Well, they seem to have fixed things during the night, everything seems fine now. I really like my ISP, they're really stable and reliable, outages are really rare, and they deliver the actual bandwidth I pay for, all the time.
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2018
     
    Remy, can you reserve for me Hezia Fort in the lower Right hand corner on the Themisia map in Artemisia? I will also be doing the Temple of Poseidon in the Stromphe Dockside map, and also the Agora district on the Stromphe map, as well as more areas on the Dunor Valley map. (probably best if you reserve this whole map for me, as I envisage completing it with the Local area maps).
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2018
     
    Ok, all those areas have been reserved.

    Guess Poseidon is a popular fella over in Artemisa, that will be his second temple there.
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    Oh hello. So, it's been a while.
    I reserved a castle area in Glaciar Kristol about a year ago, then suddenly I lost use of my main PC for several months and by the time I got it back I'd forgotten all about mapping and this project. But I'm itching to get back into it, so I thought I'd check if that area is still available :)
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2018
     
    Yep, the area is still reserved to you, so you can safely go ahead.
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    Version 180913 of the Community Atlas has an error going from the parent map to the continent of Kumarikandam. The continent map doesn't load and CC3+ needs to be shut down using the Task Manager.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    Thanks for the report. As far as I can tell, there is nothing wrong with the atlas navigation, but I am betting you have hit a "redraw loop". This is a bug that happens in CC3+ sometimes, and causes the map to just redraw over and over. You can generally get out of this loop by clicking the sheets and effects button, and then wait a few more seconds, as once the current redraw cycle is complete the dialog will show and you can click OK to go back to the map.
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    Awesome, I'll check it out. Going through the maps to stake my claim!
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    Okay, several areas looked at but I am nowhere near being prepared to tackle a region 975,000 km square. :)

    I happen to like dungeons, and I REALLY like big ones. If possible, I would like to reserve the two caves indicated on the attached image - Northen Scar environs, Continent of Alarius. There are approximately 80 miles between them (as measured in CC3+), so a series of caverns, tunnels and the odd multi-level dungeon ought to spruce the place up a bit.

    Also, I am unable to open the Kumarikandam continent map directly, but I am able to 3 other maps from that continent. I don't have the style they were done in, as the three of them are nothing but the Red X to me. Could that be a contributing factor?
      CC3__Contribution2.jpg
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018 edited
     
    Posted By: PerryCI happen to like dungeons, and I REALLY like big ones. If possible, I would like to reserve the two caves indicated on the attached image - Northen Scar environs, Continent of Alarius.
    Great, I'll reserve those for you.



    Also, I am unable to open the Kumarikandam continent map directly, but I am able to 3 other maps from that continent. I don't have the style they were done in, as the three of them are nothing but the Red X to me. Could that be a contributing factor?
    Weird. I wonder if anyone else have that problem too. In any case, you can try to force effects off before you open it by going to Tools -> Options and set the 'Effects on load' setting to always off before opening the map. Many maps will look weird with effects off, but they are much less likely to cause a problem for you.
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018 edited
     
    Thanks!!

    Downloaded twice and tried extracting to different locations all the same result, and changing the effects on load setting doesn't help. All the other maps seem to open fine, even if I don't have the styles used. Just that one map is an issue for me. I plan on getting all the Annuals soon enough so its not that big of a concern right now. Just figured I'd mention it :D



    edit: I really need to figure out how the quotes work on these forums.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    You just need to click the small "quote" word at the top right of the comment you want to quote. That places the quote in the comment box you are about to use to make your comment :)
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    Yup, but I didn't want to include his quotes of my post, just his responses. I am slow expressing myself clearly sometimes :D
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2018
     
    You can edit the quote so that it only contains the bit you want to quote :)
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2018
     
    I've updated the Contribute page on the atlas site to be a little less intimidating. I think this approach is better than the old wall of text. It is difficult finding the right balance between not scaring off potential new contributors and providing enough technical information. Please tell me what you think.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2018
     
    Very impressive!

    I think you were right to change it :)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2018
     
    Very clear.
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2018
     
    I spotted the time limit for mappers seems to have been decreased from one year down to six months, before they need to renew any pending reserved areas (under "Take your time"). Or am I just misremembering this?
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2018
     
    Posted By: WyvernI spotted the time limit for mappers seems to have been decreased from one year down to six months, before they need to renew any pending reserved areas (under "Take your time"). Or am I just misremembering this?
    I am just being sneaky. I am still going to stick with the year, I just want to try to get in some early warnings for long-running maps. 6 months is still way more than anyone normaly needs anyway. Call it a "soft limit".
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2018
     
    LOL! I guess I'm not very normal! :P
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2018
     
    Huge city maps are probably the hardest and longest to do - believe me, both you and me know that. Your Merelan is still my goal towards another city for me. I will actually start a city creation using CC3 thread - would Sue, Monsen and any others be interested in sharing thoughts, experiences, how they have approached it in the past, and what they intend to do different and why.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2018
     
    So, I added a small thing to the atlas homepage.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2018
     
    LOL! :D

    That's a great idea. Will it change every day?
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2018
     
    Yes
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2018
     
    Brilliant :D
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2018
     
    Now that's cool!
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2018
     
    Great idea
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    After some deliberation, I decided to switch over the maps in the online map browser for the atlas to jpeg instead of png. At the 85% quality setting, these are just a bit above one tenth of the png files, making the atlas pages load MUCH faster, making them kinder for people with slow connections to my server, as well as being far more bandwidth-friendly for those with a limited amount of that stuff. The average map is just 300kB or less, compared to close to 3MB for the png versions.
    While hardly noticeable at the normal view, this does make zooming in the maps look worse, but we already have the hi-resolution versions available for those that need better quality and zoom, and those will stay in .png.


    I implemented this change by adding some code to the server, making it automatically generate the .jpg file if it doesn't already exist. This adds a slight delay for the first visitor to any given map (although the reduced map size will probably mean that total page load time will be less anyway), but the jpg is written to disk, so the next visitor is just served the existing one unless the png has been updated in the mean time. I did it this way because it saves me from converting all those files to jpg, and it also leaves my workflow intact, letting me create the pngs as I always have (Saves me from some clicks, since I don't have to switch file type when I generate the normal version from the hi-res one), and also keeping the png's around if needed.

    Let me know what you think. Png is obviously a superior format for maps, but for a web page, the load times are a pretty important factor too (and they don't eat up your monthly quota if you are on a metered connection, such as most mobile plans)
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    I think that's perfectly reasonable.

    Thank you for continually reviewing and streamlining everything for us :D
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      CommentAuthorQuenten
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2018
     
    Good idea, as always. We will have to call these - 'having a Monsen'
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2018
     
    Aresdice City added to the atlas. Thanks for the contribution Jerry.
    • CommentAuthorPerryC
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2018 edited
     
    My first contribution is ready.



    Link to the FCW file:

    The Tale of Elban's Demise

    The man is sitting in his chair, just like you were told he could be found, the description you were given matches as well. A dirty, smell shell of old man, matted grey hair hanging over his face, a waist length greasy mess of a beard. Hands, crippled and knotted on the arms of his chair.

    “You be thems that been asking about Elben’s Demise? I can smell it on yous,” this gets a chuckle of the old man. You were told he hasn’t been the same since last he ventured into the mysterious valley, according to the legend and tales, this crazy old man is the only one who survived.

    “Elben’s Demise… a hateful place. Ye best find another hole to poke yer noses into. Elben, he was always chasin’ the gold you see. Din’t matter where it took him, or what he had to do. This time he tol’ us that he had found a map that showed ‘em miles and miles of caverns and tunnels. He needed me and me wagons. Most ‘liable teamster around then. Pay was good ‘nugh to keep me interested.

    “It was good travel till we hit that god-forsaken valley, then we found The Scrub, can’t rightly ‘member who called it that, but it stuck. There is an old, long forgotten trail, on the eastern side. Stay on in. it leads to Gorst’s Hold. He is kind of the boss of the valley, you’ll need to make a deal with to go farther. Any trading you want to do has to be done there. Gorst don’t like visitors pokin’ around his people too much. Gorst himself, is some big bastard of a…. well, I don’t rightly know. He is big, ugly mean, he will make deals, but just like to stab you in the back. He has all manor of bandits, deserters, and Gods know what else up his sleeve.

    “Now, Gorst isn’t stupid, he keeps his people alive and fed in that place. He might even offer to sell you extra gear is you are braving those caves. He wants a reasonable cut of yer take, just don’t try to cheat him. Bad things happen.

    “To get to the gold and treasure in them caverns, and a lost dwarf city you need to enter the cave called Demon’s Throat. It’s like you crossed the bridge to hell there. A hot, bubbling black streams come s out the cave and into the Scrub. Yup, the water is black as tar, don’t drink. No antidote is quick enough, lost a few men and animals to that stuff.

    “Comin’ back out the tunnels with our haul is when Elben made the mistake of trying to go ‘round the other side of the valley from Gorst. I can’t remember how many and wagons were lost trying to drive them through the Scrub. Its full of razor-sharp rocks, stunted evil trees, pieces of stone that had been marked by hands of man lie scattered about the Scrub. You ain’t going to get away from Gorst that way.

    “Then we stumbled across that Circle of Stones. Tall, green-purple stones standing taller than a building, and humming with energy. I ain’t never felt anything like that since. Then bolts of light started flashin’ out of them rocks. Anyone they hit, didn’t make it. So just disappeared, others exploded in a mess. Running at night, through that Scrub, with the bolts of light streaking out and exploding, the cries of my friends and the animals as they died.

    “Then the shadows started hunting. I think they came from Death’s Gate, its an evil smelling a place I have ever seen. Some sort of fortress made from black rock stood there in ancient times. Strong and proud it was said. At some point it exploded, black rock reigning down all over the valley. Grost and his people avoid the place as they are constantly fighting with the shadow creatures.

    “The black stream that flows out of the cave, empties into the Death Gate, thundering over the edge into a hole…a deep hole. So deep ain’t anybody live come out of there.

    “Like I said, Gorst don’t like to be cheated, so let this be yer last warning about it.” The gnarled hands lift the matted and tangled mess of hair out of the way. You stare in some revulsion at the mangled mess you see before. The man’s eyes have been gouged out, and his nose hacked from his face. Layers of scars from being cut and burned cover the rest of his face. Lips have been hacked and burned showing missing and cracked teeth.

    “Seek yous the treasures of Elben’s Demise if yous have gold lust, just be careful it doesn’t bite back!”
    His hands fall to his arm rests once again, and the old man retreats into his thoughts and memories once more.