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    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2016
     
    I have decided to delete any unwatermarked items of my files and maps, as it is going to take me at least a month, and more likely 3 months, to get all of them waterwarked. I didn't want to start a rush of thievery on maps I haven't watermarked yet.

    So there are very few maps on my sites at this time. I have kept up there the items, pdfs, etc. I am hosting for others.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2016
     
    I really have to say this here... another forum, I just wanted to mention what was going on. Some of the posters there started dissecting what I said, and didn't say.

    So, I am now apparently confused as I don't have proof someone is selling my maps, therefore, it isn't happening. People astound me from time to time.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016
     
    I looked closer at my logs, and the 'Display' bit is in my 'pages not found' part of cpanel. So I'm putting my maps back on line.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016
     
    Posted By: JimPI really have to say this here... another forum, I just wanted to mention what was going on. Some of the posters there started dissecting what I said, and didn't say.

    So, I am now apparently confused as I don't have proof someone is selling my maps, therefore, it isn't happening. People astound me from time to time.

    I don't really understand what you mean? Are you saying that someone is trying to make you look bad for being concerned about the evidence you found?

    Posted By: JimPI looked closer at my logs, and the 'Display' bit is in my 'pages not found' part of cpanel. So I'm putting my maps back on line.

    And I really don't understand what that means at all! Sorry.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016
     
    When I checked cpanel, admin of my domain, I looked in the '404 pages not found' part of my sites.

    It shows the lines in my visitor logs i was bothered by, as links not found on my site.

    So they aren't linking to sell, but looking for links that don't exist on my site.

    So my, approximately, 2.12 gigabytes of pngs are back up on my sites.

    As for not stopping people from selling my maps, I think I can stop them. It wouldn't be cheap, but it is a copyright violation.

    To your first question, the folks on another forum, gamer, didn't try to explain anything to me. They just pointed out I was mistaken and there was nothing I could do to stop people from copying and selling my maps. I doubted their claim and I still do. Two people there stated that since I could provide no evidence of my stuff being sold, it wasn't being sold.

    But thats a fallacy. Lack of evidence, doesn't mean lack of something going on. There are places out on the Internet where regular search engines don't go. So when the two complainers searched, them not finding anything was meaningless, but they decided it did have meaning.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016 edited
     
    Sound's like a case of people being argumentative just because they can, and the evidence you did find seems pretty fishy to me.

    However, I agree with what you've done, and I hope whoever is messing around at whatever they really are doing, think twice before disturbing your things again!
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016
     
    I hope so to.

    As for that other forum, there are folks there who like to argue, and since I cannot find the discussion there anymore, a mod likely deleted it.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2016 edited
     
    Hmmn.... Just like that blog I found only once? But before I go and spark a ridiculous conspiracy theory I'll just sigh and carry on designing my mark, which I've decided will go right in the corner at the end of a small copyright notice:


    © copyright 2016 Sue Daniel Mark.PNG

    (its meant to be a mouse paw print, but needs a bit more work! LOL!)

    It also needs to be only about a quarter of that size. None of it will cover any significant part of the map (hopefully being placed in the ocean or a desert or some such relatively empty feature), but the lump caused by the presence of the mark will make it fairly difficult to simply trim the copyright notice off the edge of the map.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2016
     
    I've placed my 'statement' on the ocean in my Norseland map.

    Not sure what to use for my cartouche. Maybe a wolf's head, side view.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2016 edited
     
    I think the general idea is to use something that doesn't detract from the map by being too big or colourful, but which takes a corner in such a way that someone would have to trim half the map away to get rid of it. (the only exception I've ever seen to this rule is Bogie's all seeing eye with its incredibly colourful and very well known design - but that's just Bogie all over, and he's famous enough for people to want a map just because it has his mark on it)

    The mark isn't supposed to obscure any of the important bits or get in the way of other's enjoyment of the map.

    In the next couple of days I'm going to be uploading the first update to Merelan City for a very long time. The mark will appear in the bottom right hand corner. If you look at that image when I upload it you will see that it is possible to cut off my copyright notice (which I have put out of the way on the inner border of the map because it was spoiling the view), but if you wanted to get rid of my little mouse paw 'seal' you'd have to cut a significant swathe off the bottom and side of the map which would aesthetically spoil the entire map and render it worthless in comparison to having the whole thing in one piece ;)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2016
     
    I have updated on here two of my Norseland maps. I've uploaded all 5 of my Mazes and Minotaurs maps with my new bit on them.

    As for putting it in blank areas, some of them, so far, have blank areas in the middle of the map... so that is where I put it. Thats in ocean anyway.

    Its the small area maps, a few miles across, that I'll have to make decisions on what to cover up...
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2016
     
    I've not seen a mark or copyright notice in the middle of a map before now. Maybe it would be better to try to put it all in the bottom right hand corner? No reason for suggesting it really other than that's normally where such things are found (and where people find them least obstructive to their enjoyment of the map) :)
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    What are the links for your resources Jim?

    Also the isometric view maps, are those a special annual add-on or where do I find that? I loved maps like those when Dugoneers Survival Guide came out. They added all kinds of graph paper in the back of the book. Previous to that everyone only did top down views.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016 edited
     
    If you mean Mazes and Minotaurs pdfs, there is a link on my site for this:

    my Mazes and Minotaurs site

    The iso maps are in Annual issue 66. Not yet compatible with CC3+.

    Well, I thought there was a link... I'll fix that.

    Ah, here is the site I got them from. http://mazesandminotaurs.free.fr/
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    Posted By: LoopysueI've not seen a mark or copyright notice in the middle of a map before now. Maybe it would be better to try to put it all in the bottom right hand corner? No reason for suggesting it really other than that's normally where such things are found (and where people find them least obstructive to their enjoyment of the map) :)


    I put them where they wont conflict with data on the map, and so they wont easily be removed. I don't think there is an official location, but I think at the corners where i have mostly seen them would make it too easy for the jerks out there.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    I guess I'll unsink this as we continue to post to this thread.
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    LOL! You watch - no one will say anything now ;)
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    Wrong. Thanks JimP for posting the links. I did install both the CC3 and CC3+ so I may have to look into those iso maps. Just love that style.
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    Also got my learn on. I did not know that a Fantasy based game preceded Dungeons and Dragons. I had always assumed D&D was the grandfather of them all.

    I downloaded all the info and am going to give it some love. Have heard mention of it from time to time, but never paid it any attention. Bad me!
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016 edited
     
    Actually, M&M is a pastiche and a joke. It didn't really precede D&D. I do remember, from about 1980, various people coming up to me a telling me the same thing that they mention in the M&M pdfs 'its not a war game !'. Which is true, it isn't, but apparently a game existing that wasn't a war game, but included combat between good and evil, was suspect or upsetting or something.

    But Traveller came out about the same time as the beige/brown d&d booklets.
    • CommentAuthorJay_NOLA
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    Thanks Jim for the M & M link.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    You're welcome. There are lots of pdfs on the site, some of the complaints against the game are rather absurd.
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      CommentAuthorMonsen
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2016 edited
     
    I found that you can prevent your images from being pinned on Pinterest

    Either add a meata tag to each page:
    <meta name="pinterest" content="nopin" />

    Or, protect each individual image
    <img src="http://example.com/map.png" nopin="nopin" />

    Og course, doesn't prevent people from stealing them in other ways.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2016
     
    I have that in some of my site's metadata section.
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018
     
    Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but in an odd coincidence with the discussion regarding the latest Facebook page mapping contest, where I mentioned Pinterest as a problematic site for ripping-off online artwork, when I was doing a Google search for unrelated images today, I found the first lines of images were all from Pinterest. So (after a quick search) I recalled this topic mentioned how to avoid getting any Pinterest images, but when I retried the search using the -site:pinterest.com command, as suggested first above here by Dogtag, it seems this no longer works as well, as while it dramatically reduced the number of Pinterest hits, there were still five or six in the first few lines of images Google brought up.

    I checked the linked image addresses, and they are definitely from pinterest.com, so has this command line been subverted in some way, and does anyone know of a better way to block Pinterest hits during such a search now?
    • CommentAuthorLoopysue
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018
     
    I use

    -site:pinterest.*

    A lot of the pinterest images I was coming up with in searches were pinterest.au, or pinterest.xyz, where xyz was some country of origin. It seems they've grown so large that they need several variations on the original .com theme. Either that, or they're trying to get around the -site rejection to ram even more advertising down our necks by causing us to accidentally click on their images when we think we are safe.

    The asterisk works as a wild card well enough in Edge. I don't know if it works in other browsers, but I've been pinterest-free for some time now by adding this to autotext with a shortcut key.
    • CommentAuthortaustinoc
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018 edited
     
    You don't necessarily even need the site: qualifier. "-pinterest" works pretty well, too, and catches stuff that isn't on one of their domains at all, like references to them.

    (And I suspect the reason for the various told level domains is more about complying with specific countries' laws than anything else. It's the easiest way to block users from certain countries, and filter content for those countries that would be illegal there, like porn. It's very common, for that reason, for web based companies that have world-wide appeal, because it's pretty much the only way to operate legally.)

    (There's a list of common search switches here. Note that anything that will look for something specific will work to exclude that something with a "-" in front of it.)
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018
     
    I now have the problem of some alleged web design sites in the eastern hemsiphere who point to some of my sites, and pretend they designed them.

    I have a statement on those sites that says I designed my sites with no help from others, but I probably need to put that notice up in say Urdu.
    • CommentAuthortaustinoc
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018
     
    If you can filter by referrer headers, you could replace them with something really horrible, but only for people following those links.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2018
     
    No, its just a list in cpanel showing me who has accessed which site and page.
    • CommentAuthorWyvern
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2018 edited
     
    Thanks for the input folks - and sorry to learn the rip-off problem remains ongoing for you Jim.

    Both Loopysue's asterisk option and taustinoc's option of just -pinterest impressively brought up NO Pinterest items at all using Chrome, so those look like good options to me!
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 9th 2018
     
    They didn't do it until I started turning out better maps. But I prefer a compliment that doesn't involve stealing my maps, nor someone pretending they built my site.
    • CommentAuthorJimP
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2018
     
    I did find out that one is just a search engine, not a copier of sites. So thats a relief. baidu is the site.